Thermal and preparedness.

[rouchna]

Looks like a nice tube.

Thanks. It is. It’s a 3rd Gen WP Elbit PVS14. I really wish the pictures were as clear as it is to the naked eye.

 

[teratos]

Thanks. It is. It’s a 3rd Gen WP Elbit PVS14. I really wish the pictures were as clear as it is to the naked eye.

I have a similar tube, and understand entirely. Pics can’t do them justice.

 

[Slackdaddy]

Looks like a nice tube.

I get that a lot

 

[rouchna]

I have a similar tube, and understand entirely. Pics can’t do them justice.

It truly is a super power.

I get that a lot

 

[El_flasko]

I was at my WV hideaway last night and took some pics with my iPhone. The pictures do not do my PVS14 justice.

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That’s unreal man

 

[rouchna]

That’s unreal man

We need to get out to my place, my friend.

 

[adit]

I was at my WV hideaway last night and took some pics with my iPhone. The pictures do not do my PVS14 justice.

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Is that Bob Lee Swagger under the house?

 

[El_flasko]

We need to get out to my place, my friend.

Bring it bud. Greg and I are heading out to GunCommaders class in WV in October

 

[rouchna]

Is that Bob Lee Swagger under the house?

 

[Occam]

I spent a day this past week down at Fort Moore (formerly Fort Benning) doing some documentary making as my client was showing off a new optic to the Rangers at a live fire demo. It's a fancy holographic reticle sight (think, vaguely like an Eotech or a Vortex UH-1), but it has a thermal device integrated, and it pipes the output right into the same glass as the normal reticle view. So, you're just looking through glass, not at a screen. You can use your NODS, or a magnifier behind it if you want. The device toggles between white hot, black hot, and a simply amazing outline mode that understands human body temp and shows you the outline around a human target way, WAY down range. But best suited for intermediate distances. It's the integration of the thermal into the holographic display that is the game changer, but also the internal software that says, "It's a bad guy!" and shows you a can't-miss outline, even if he's in a ghillie suit lying down in the weeds.

The Rangers are currently playing with a couple of these devices, and were very excited. Introduces all sorts of new tactical advantages without having more crap mounted to the rifle. And it only costs about $10k! They're talking about making a civilian-legal version. I will say: I have a mild astigmatism, and the reticle in my UH-1 has the expected bristly fuzz to it. The reticle in this devices was shockingly, 100% perfectly clear - I was amazed. The engineer helping with the presentation said, "Well, there's a reason it costs ten grand..." Oh, and it's rated for use on an M240, and has been tested with success so far on an M2. Light enough you barely notice it on an M4/AR-ish rifle. Two CR123 batteries for many, many hours of thermal use, and hundreds of hours in reticle only mode.

I'll know soon if I get to share some images/video.

 

[RRomig]

I spent a day this past week down at Fort Moore (formerly Fort Benning) doing some documentary making as my client was showing off a new optic to the Rangers at a live fire demo. It's a fancy holographic reticle sight (think, vaguely like an Eotech or a Vortex UH-1), but it has a thermal device integrated, and it pipes the output right into the same glass as the normal reticle view. So, you're just looking through glass, not at a screen. You can use your NODS, or a magnifier behind it if you want. The device toggles between white hot, black hot, and a simply amazing outline mode that understands human body temp and shows you the outline around a human target way, WAY down range. But best suited for intermediate distances. It's the integration of the thermal into the holographic display that is the game changer, but also the internal software that says, "It's a bad guy!" and shows you a can't-miss outline, even if he's in a ghillie suit lying down in the weeds.

The Rangers are currently playing with a couple of these devices, and were very excited. Introduces all sorts of new tactical advantages without having more crap mounted to the rifle. And it only costs about $10k! They're talking about making a civilian-legal version. I will say: I have a mild astigmatism, and the reticle in my UH-1 has the expected bristly fuzz to it. The reticle in this devices was shockingly, 100% perfectly clear - I was amazed. The engineer helping with the presentation said, "Well, there's a reason it costs ten grand..." Oh, and it's rated for use on an M240, and has been tested with success so far on an M2. Light enough you barely notice it on an M4/AR-ish rifle. Two CR123 batteries for many, many hours of thermal use, and hundreds of hours in reticle only mode.

I'll know soon if I get to share some images/video.

Sounds like a great innovation. When you say way down range and intermediate can you associate some numbers to that?
Thanks

 

[Occam]

When you say way down range and intermediate can you associate some numbers to that?

The optic is not a magnifier, though you can pop a standard one behind it. So the normal view and reticle are very effective (used that way) out to, say, 300 yards. The thermal imaging is still essentially a plane of pixels, and as your target gets farther and farther away, it's occupying fewer of those pixels. At 300 yards, a standing human is discernable, but not a very viable target in that mode. At 150 or 200 yards, easy peasy. At room-clearing distances, or down a hallway or such in pitch dark, it's some alien tech magic stuff.

 

[Archeryrob]

Welp, I found mine, just need some wire ties or duct take and its set to work. Maybe a block of wood for height adjustment. Black flat spray paint for street cred.

https://www.amazon.com/Nerf-Modulus-Night-Zoom-Scope/dp/B01N7YVRA2

 

[Archeryrob]

In all seriousness. if they can make one half azz toy work for $35 and provide crappy night vision why isn't there one that is fairly good for $200. I'd think the toy needed to be $250 to even provide junk images.

 

[erwos]

In all seriousness. if they can make one half azz toy work for $35 and provide crappy night vision why isn't there one that is fairly good for $200. I'd think the toy needed to be $250 to even provide junk images.

You're describing the Sionyx Aurora. The refurb Black units are $300.

That said, doing garbage digital NV is cheap. You take a basic CMOS sensor digital camera, pull the IR filters, and you're basically there. At that point, you just need some IR illumination (or accept that it won't work in totally dark conditions). But you typically have some lag and image reproduction issues. This is where the Sionyx cameras simply do it better (along with better sensors and chips in general).

 

[Blacksmith101]

For every new weapon there develops a counter measure.

New ponchos look to make troops invisible to infrared, thermal scopes​

 

[outrider58]

For every new weapon there develops a counter measure.

New ponchos look to make troops invisible to infrared, thermal scopes​

Necessity is the mother of invention...

 

[Ponder_MD]

Got my thermal zeroed. I shot the center out of a Hot Hands.
I learned about the "one shot zero" feature after the fact.

 

[RRomig]

Got my thermal zeroed. I shot the center out of a Hot Hands.
I learned about the "one shot zero" feature after the fact.

That feature is cool but the least amount of shots I’ve ever gotten away with is 2 and my high water mark is 4. I have also witnessed it taking half a box so there’s that.

 

[steves1911]

Finally picked up a agm taipan 15-256. The price has recently dropped on the taipan since their new line came out. For sub $600 and the 10-256 can be had for sub $500 it's a hell of a deal.