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  • Study? Load sierra or Nosler 175s to mag length over 42 gr of imr4064 or 41 gr of 8208xbr. Use any large rifle primer that's been stored right.

    Or, since it's a pss with a long 12 twist, run 45.5 varget under sierra 155 Palma (#2156) in lapua cases. For winchester brass, probably want to be 46-46.5gr. 47 gr imr4064 or 46gr n140 will also work. The 2156 can be more length sensitive so measure carefully and try to keep them within .020 of lands. My bisley reamed krieger likes .015-.020. original sako barrel shot best at or in lands. My 30" 13 twist liked .020 so I'm guessing the sako bbl was probably a sloppier throat.
    Do you have a secret load for 6.5 Skinny Jeans/6.5 Man Bun/6.5 Local IPA?
    I had a great load for El Cheapo (TC Compass), but my Bergara BMP doesn't really like it as much.
     

    4g64loser

    collector of fine .22s
    Jan 18, 2007
    2,208
    maryland
    Do you have a secret load for 6.5 Skinny Jeans/6.5 Man Bun/6.5 Local IPA?
    I had a great load for El Cheapo (TC Compass), but my Bergara BMP doesn't really like it as much.
    I don't own a man bun rig. I run OG 260!

    I have done workups on a couple but not nearly the cross sectional experience as I've had with 308.

    The 130 berger is the sex in most 260/6.5manbun/6.5x47/6.5rsaum bbls. Seems to shoot jumped almost any amount. One of the other instructors tested it from contact to .100 out and it worked acceptably the whole way with several sweet spots.

    Most people use some flavor of the 140 pill, h4350 mojo load because they want the higher bc. If your bbl likes them, the 140 rdfs run pretty close to published BC in my 260 hunting rifle. I'm not posting how, but I drove 130 bergers to 3000fps and 100 noslers to 3417fps (3 shots with extreme spreads of 4fps) in that rifle. I like the 130 hot rod load better for soft tissue than the 140.

    Pinged one of our guys:
    44gr RL17 under berger 130 (my notes-this is hot as snot so work up SLOW and never use this in the summer or leave the ammo in the sun)
    43.5 RL19 under berger 130 (much slower, even in long barrels, but much more civilized and temp stable)

    40gr h4350 +/- .5 seems to be pretty sweet for most 140s according to my buddy. Jump may need tuning, depends on the bullet. I would add, though I have no data to contribute, that a 140 in the sleazemoor should be just about perfect for ramshot hunter and that h414 should do well too.
     
    I don't own a man bun rig. I run OG 260!

    I have done workups on a couple but not nearly the cross sectional experience as I've had with 308.

    The 130 berger is the sex in most 260/6.5manbun/6.5x47/6.5rsaum bbls. Seems to shoot jumped almost any amount. One of the other instructors tested it from contact to .100 out and it worked acceptably the whole way with several sweet spots.

    Most people use some flavor of the 140 pill, h4350 mojo load because they want the higher bc. If your bbl likes them, the 140 rdfs run pretty close to published BC in my 260 hunting rifle. I'm not posting how, but I drove 130 bergers to 3000fps and 100 noslers to 3417fps (3 shots with extreme spreads of 4fps) in that rifle. I like the 130 hot rod load better for soft tissue than the 140.

    Pinged one of our guys:
    44gr RL17 under berger 130 (my notes-this is hot as snot so work up SLOW and never use this in the summer or leave the ammo in the sun)
    43.5 RL19 under berger 130 (much slower, even in long barrels, but much more civilized and temp stable)

    40gr h4350 +/- .5 seems to be pretty sweet for most 140s according to my buddy. Jump may need tuning, depends on the bullet. I would add, though I have no data to contribute, that a 140 in the sleazemoor should be just about perfect for ramshot hunter and that h414 should do well too.
    El Cheapo really liked: Hornady Brass, 42.0gr H4350, 140gr ELD-M, CCI LRP, 2.81" @ ~2800fps.
    The Bergara needs some work. Either I haven't found the Bergara's "magical load" yet, or the TC Compass with a Vortex Crossfire II 3-9x40 is a better rifle than a Bergara MBP with a Viper PST 6-24x50 FFP.
    (For the haters, the TC Compass in 6.5 Creedmoor is stupid accurate and were had for <$300 at one point)
     

    4g64loser

    collector of fine .22s
    Jan 18, 2007
    2,208
    maryland
    The compass rifles were a great buy for people who wanted a shooter hunting rifle at a crazy cheap price. I'm a snob for how the action of my rifle feels but I can't argue with the results I saw out of those things on paper.

    Some folks with bergaras have had some minor tuning issues. They seem to have the bolt problems resolved. One guy has one in 308 and it's a hammer....but he did say it took a while to find it's load.
     

    tundramuscle03

    Beer Jockey
    Mar 19, 2007
    2,186
    Dundalk Noob
    I've been digging around online trying to figure out what's what with glass. Well, actually, I've figured it out - anything less than about a grand, there's some kind of compromise - the question becomes one of how much the compromise is, and whether or not it would be lost on someone like me.

    I highlighted the Vortex Viper PST - those seem to be pretty highly regarded. Because I've already thrown so much money at this build, and I'm not positive that I'd be able to notice the difference or even make use of it, I'm leaning pretty heavily towards one of these two scopes:

    Vortex Venom 5-25x56 (I can get this on GovX for $469 - not sure where else it would be cheaper)
    Athlon Helos 6-24x56 (I can find this one for just a touch north of $500)

    The question then becomes one of what I want vs what compromises there might be. Given that the ranges I'm planning to shoot are mostly inside of 300 yards, I think either one would be a solid choice.

    I'm leaning towards the Vortex - I'm not positive I'd need the illumination, and although it doesn't have locking turrets, it does have a zero-stop ring to allow a quick reset to zero.

    Any thoughts?
    I've actually looked at the Venom myself and it looks pretty solid...I would definitely use GovX for the price, I used to have access to Expertvoice, which is basically the same as GovX, but more for retail stores, when I worked part-time at BassPro...

    Given your distances, I'd say both are a solid choice, but like you, I'd be leaning towards Vortex myself...having the illumination is kinda like the old argument of "better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it"...I had taken my PRS rifle hunting 2 years ago for shits and giggles because I was going to be hunting a farm for the first time, so it was more of an open area, the illumination was nice to see in some of the lower light times, but didn't use it when i took the shots...

    Locking turrets are nice, but having a zero stop is really nice, especially if you think/know you're going to be adjusting your turret while you're shooting...
     

    Swaim13

    Member
    Jun 11, 2017
    280
    I've been digging around online trying to figure out what's what with glass. Well, actually, I've figured it out - anything less than about a grand, there's some kind of compromise - the question becomes one of how much the compromise is, and whether or not it would be lost on someone like me.

    I highlighted the Vortex Viper PST - those seem to be pretty highly regarded. Because I've already thrown so much money at this build, and I'm not positive that I'd be able to notice the difference or even make use of it, I'm leaning pretty heavily towards one of these two scopes:

    Vortex Venom 5-25x56 (I can get this on GovX for $469 - not sure where else it would be cheaper)
    Athlon Helos 6-24x56 (I can find this one for just a touch north of $500)

    The question then becomes one of what I want vs what compromises there might be. Given that the ranges I'm planning to shoot are mostly inside of 300 yards, I think either one would be a solid choice.

    I'm leaning towards the Vortex - I'm not positive I'd need the illumination, and although it doesn't have locking turrets, it does have a zero-stop ring to allow a quick reset to zero.

    Any thoughts?
    Take a look at the arken line up at the price point. I have only heard that they hit way above their price point.
     
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