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  • Huckleberry

    No One of Consequence
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 19, 2007
    24,835
    Severn & Lewes
    Or a 1897 with a 1917 bayonet

    You yell "Fix Bayonets" and ain't nobody is going to want to stay in your house

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    cornstalk

    Active Member
    Mar 13, 2013
    145
    I use the 20 gauge Remington 870 with Hogue reduced LOP stock set.
    I put a Hogue reduced LOP stock on my Mossy 500. If you shoot anything with a high base, your thumb that goes over the grip ends up punching yourself in the nose. I finally went back to a standard LOP stock.
     

    eagledriver

    Member
    Jan 13, 2013
    96
    Mt Airy, South sorta
    Copied and pasted:

    "The tried and true Remington 870 pump."

    Yes, and if you can, get the police version. I got a used one from their surplus sold some years ago through a local dealer. That stock can hold an additional 4 shells, plus the 4 already in the tube.
    You do not need to spend $2000 on a shotgun for effective home defense.
    I personally do not store it with a round chambered.
    Past a case of shells for familiarity and confidence, you might consider a simple flashlight, although it's best if attached to the gun and maybe one of the hearing protectors with active circuitry.

    But keep in mind, the more accessories you are worried about, takes your focus away from defending yourself and your family.

    imho ☺
     

    Worsley

    I apologize for hurting your feelings!
    Jan 5, 2022
    3,751
    Westminster
    I put a Hogue reduced LOP stock on my Mossy 500. If you shoot anything with a high base, your thumb that goes over the grip ends up punching yourself in the nose. I finally went back to a standard LOP stock.
    Neither my wife or I have had that issue, thank you for the warning.
     

    hogarth

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 13, 2009
    2,711
    I put a Hogue reduced LOP stock on my Mossy 500. If you shoot anything with a high base, your thumb that goes over the grip ends up punching yourself in the nose. I finally went back to a standard LOP stock.
    I use that same stock on both of my 590A1s. Don't wrap your thumb around. Just run it up, but not around. Problem solved.
     

    1time

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 26, 2009
    2,400
    Baltimore, Md
    Most importantly, based on the hollowpoint ammunition like Critical Defense and other brands with a polymer tip, they don't over-penetrate like buckshot and 5.56 ammunition.

    Read something else about something from someone that read something else?

    Critical Defense won’t fill a hollow point with drywall turning it into a fmj like pistol ammo without a ball filling a hollow point.

    Stop saying 5.56 like it is one thing. There are 62g penetrator bullets, copper solid bullets and game rounds that won’t exit a ground hog. Like the most popular 5.56 rifle itself, the rounds can be tasked to do a huge variety of things well.

    I encourage you to buy a sheet of drywall and some 2x4’s. You can build a couple of small test “walls” for the cost of 2 chic fila meals. You can use fir stripping if you want to test drywall alone.
     

    Biggfoot44

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 2, 2009
    34,680
    Most importantly, based on the hollowpoint ammunition like Critical Defense and other brands with a polymer tip, they don't over-penetrate like buckshot and 5.56 ammunition.

    Yes , there are differences in barrier penetration amongst various ammunitions ( plural in honor of Paul Harrell) .

    The Hornaday " Criticals " are designed for good ( anti - felon) performance After passing thru intermediate barriers .

    IF you are definitely Inside average size home , 4 Buck probably won't pass thru a home invader , and is only low medium on interior wall penetration if you miss .

    From multiple sources , plain 'ol 55 FMJ. 223/ 5.56 will break up inside a double side drywall interior wall .

    IF * reducing * interior wall penetration with conventional ( non exotic ) pistol ammunitions, the Infamous Silvertip will penetrate fewest drywalls of conventional JHPs , yet penetrate deeper than true exotics like Mag Safe or Glaser ( which Will be stopped in first wall ) .

    Set your priorities and make decisions. Are you * reducing * interior wall penetration on general principles? Or is it Mission Critical to absolutely positively not shoot thru a particular wall that is strategically in the way ?

    And the most important consideration in avoiding wall penetration? Don't Miss !
     

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    32,211
    Yes , there are differences in barrier penetration amongst various ammunitions ( plural in honor of Paul Harrell) .

    The Hornaday " Criticals " are designed for good ( anti - felon) performance After passing thru intermediate barriers .

    IF you are definitely Inside average size home , 4 Buck probably won't pass thru a home invader , and is only low medium on interior wall penetration if you miss .

    From multiple sources , plain 'ol 55 FMJ. 223/ 5.56 will break up inside a double side drywall interior wall .

    IF * reducing * interior wall penetration with conventional ( non exotic ) pistol ammunitions, the Infamous Silvertip will penetrate fewest drywalls of conventional JHPs , yet penetrate deeper than true exotics like Mag Safe or Glaser ( which Will be stopped in first wall ) .

    Set your priorities and make decisions. Are you * reducing * interior wall penetration on general principles? Or is it Mission Critical to absolutely positively not shoot thru a particular wall that is strategically in the way ?

    And the most important consideration in avoiding wall penetration? Don't Miss !
    Glaser rounds suck at everything. If you hit the badguy, they don't penetrate far enough to be a good defensive load. If you miss and hit someone innocent on another side of a wall, they're MORE terminally effective because drywall crimps the nose closed and causes them to penetrate more like a fmj.
     

    Biggfoot44

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 2, 2009
    34,680
    Glaser rounds suck at everything. If you hit the badguy, they don't penetrate far enough to be a good defensive load. If you miss and hit someone innocent on another side of a wall, they're MORE terminally effective because drywall crimps the nose closed and causes them to penetrate more like a fmj.

    I mentioned them , because they are popular and well known.


    IF Pre Fragmented is actually appropriate for your particular Niche , the Mag Safe is a far superior option , with larger size shot , and more stable containment.

    It still won't please Penetration Freaks , but 8 - 10 inch penetration is less unreasonable than the 4-6 inch of original Glaser .

    And from first hand experience, Mag Safe will NOT penetrate one interior wall .
     
    Aug 2, 2023
    259
    Maryland
    Yes , there are differences in barrier penetration amongst various ammunitions ( plural in honor of Paul Harrell) .

    The Hornaday " Criticals " are designed for good ( anti - felon) performance After passing thru intermediate barriers .

    IF you are definitely Inside average size home , 4 Buck probably won't pass thru a home invader , and is only low medium on interior wall penetration if you miss .

    From multiple sources , plain 'ol 55 FMJ. 223/ 5.56 will break up inside a double side drywall interior wall .

    IF * reducing * interior wall penetration with conventional ( non exotic ) pistol ammunitions, the Infamous Silvertip will penetrate fewest drywalls of conventional JHPs , yet penetrate deeper than true exotics like Mag Safe or Glaser ( which Will be stopped in first wall ) .

    Set your priorities and make decisions. Are you * reducing * interior wall penetration on general principles? Or is it Mission Critical to absolutely positively not shoot thru a particular wall that is strategically in the way ?

    And the most important consideration in avoiding wall penetration? Don't Miss !

    Number 4 Buckshot will pass through walls [video tests are out there]. I sell a lot of shotguns for home defense, but I don't recommend them. There are better choices for home defense, despite what Biden tells you. Using 55-grain 5.56 can fragment [maybe a good thing in some cases]; most should be using heavier bullets with modern ARs anyway. The reason I mentioned the polymer tip 9mm is that it will reduce jamming, and hollow points reduce penetration. The hits on target are usually not the concern; it's the misses and not paying attention to the fields of fire. Under high-stress encounters, there will be misses.
     
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