Suppressor / Tax Stamp - What to Keep on you?

[Hibs]

I don't think there is a federal requirement to have proof on you at all times - but you do have to produce proof if asked eventually. However, is there not state law that you have to be able to show LE that you have the stamp? IDK I might be wrong.

Also, while an RSO cannot be a rep of the ATF, can't a private entity have a policy that requires NFA owners to have proof?

That being said - if an RSO asks me for my stamp, if there is no range rule for that, yeah, in that case pound sand.

No state law that I’ve ever heard of.

And if the range I’m frequenting demands to see it, I’m leaving and not returning.

 

[Cool_Moo5e]

Only the ATF can check up on them, say if you go to a range amd a RO ask to see your paperwork they have no right to ask for it, but if I do end up buying an NFA item I will probably end up keeping all the paperwork in the gun case along with the item

 

[calicojack]

No state law that I’ve ever heard of.

And if the range I’m frequenting demands to see it, I’m leaving and not returning.

Totally agree - I would not give my money to a range that had those kind of rules.

 

[calicojack]

No state law that I’ve ever heard of.

Yeah - I am not sure where I read that or if it's true - may not be.

 

[calicojack]

I never had an RSO at AGC ask me for a copy of a tax stamp. I have had them ask me "what is that"? on a couple of occasions - but nothing further. I have not had any of my NFA items to any other range.

 

[rseymorejr]

I never had an RSO at AGC ask me for a copy of a tax stamp. I have had them ask me "what is that"? on a couple of occasions - but nothing further. I have not had any of my NFA items to any other range.

That was probably out of curiosity (and maye a hint to try it out!)

 

[SkiPatrolDude]

I keep a picture of it. That said, I’ve never been asked for it and my suppressor sits on an SBR, so it’s a two stamp deal. I’ve honestly stopped thinking about it.

 

[calicojack]

OP, I think my take would be while there may not be any law that says you MUST have proof with you at the time your are at the range with said NFA item, I would carry something (even if it's a cell phone image) with me. And while an RSO does not have the authority to enforce ATF regs, if they subsequently ask you to leave and if you don't , then you will have other issues. FWIW.

 

[calicojack]

That was probably out of curiosity (and maye a hint to try it out!)

I think so as well. That was definitely the impression I got.

 

[Lafayette]

it’s a tax-stamp. Proof that you paid a tax. It’s just as appropriate for an RSO or non-fed LEO to ask to see my income tax returns. In other words, totally inappropriate.

Any RSO who thinks they are entitled to my financial information can go sit and spin on the world’s spiniest cactus.

If a non-ATF or non-IRS agent asks to see my stamp, I’ll ask them what articulable reasonable suspicion do they have that a crime is taking place.

Why do we even need the ATF when we seem to have folks among us ready and willing to infringe and enforce non-existent requirements on our own?

 

[River02]

Do I just need an image of the tax stamp with me at all times of the whole Package?

Is it OK to just keep it on my phone?

Part one= No.

Part 2 yes, but not required--ATF agent may not accept that...so they will need to wait until you can produce your paperwork on whatever schedule you agree with them on.

Question: Has ANYONE here ever been asked for their paperwork by a legitimate ATF agent?

 

[Sundazes]

When I was younger and stupider, I offered to show a RSO my stamp. It was my first suppressor and first time shooting it. I didn't know any different. I just keep a copy on my phone. I have never been asked to see one.

 

[Lafayette]

I keep paper copies of my stamps just in case - I don’t want to give any LEO access to my phone.

 

[Sundazes]

I keep paper copies of my stamps just in case - I don’t want to give any LEO access to my phone.

Hold if for them to show it.

 

[outrider58]

I keep paper copies of my stamps just in case - I don’t want to give any LEO access to my phone.

Tell them to bugger off!

 

[Lafayette]

Hold if for them to show it.

I’m going to stick to paper. No need for them to get even a tiny opening into anything more than necessary.

Tell them to bugger off!

RIGHT off. (Unless ATF.)

 

[River02]

Tell them to bugger off!

...and wish them a safe day (as Doc Good-hair might say)

 

[Lafayette]

And as I was browsing this thread, two more stamp approvals just arrived via email.

Early Christmas present! (After 200 days.)