Seventeen shot stop - a look at caliber and capacity

[john_bud]

Don't most indoor ranges expressly forbid head shots when target shooting.
I know Continental does.

Not sure about the ranges, but the police always show up in a nasty mood...

 

[Blaster229]

I turn the B27 upside down and just make crotch shots. lol

 

[BradMacc82]

I turn the B27 upside down and just make crotch shots. lol

My mother does the same thing, kind of, targets right side up - but every shot regardless of aiming point is a crotch shot.

I'm not kidding...

 

[Trekker]

I turn the B27 upside down and just make crotch shots. lol

I see, Is this the third category of target zones?

1) Center of Mass
2) Central Nervous System
3) Crotch shots for psychological effect

 

[Harabec Weathers]

I see, Is this the third category of target zones?

1) Center of Mass
2) Central Nervous System
3) Crotch shots for psychological effect

Actually, I heard somewhere that shots to the pelvis, providing they had enough energy and penetration to compromise the bone's structural integrity, can in fact be a really effective way to stop a threat. Might have been Mas Ayoob, now that I think about it.

 

[BradMacc82]

Pelvic shots can be REALLY effective, takes away mobility - and can be a great avenue of bleeding out if you hit an artery.

 

[Harabec Weathers]

Pelvic shots can be REALLY effective, takes away mobility - and can be a great avenue of bleeding out if you hit an artery.

I imagine they *could* have a significant psychological effect as well. Imagine, you're in a gunfight, and suddenly the ground falls out from under you.

 

[BradMacc82]

I imagine they *could* have a significant psychological effect as well. Imagine, you're in a gunfight, and suddenly your junk falls out from under you.

FTFY.


Although just dropping like a bag of rocks would suck a mighty one as well.

 

[Harabec Weathers]

FTFY.


Although just dropping like a bag of rocks would suck a mighty one as well.

Haha, yes, that too.

 

[Diogenes]

Also typically not covered by armor. The pelvis I mean.

 

[04RWon]

My hoco buddy told me about the shots to the pelvis as well.

The capacity thing kinda has me rethinking the p220 i been wanting...just like the 1911 comment

 

[NateTheShake]

The capacity thing kinda has me rethinking the p220 i been wanting...just like the 1911 comment

I wouldn't personally rule out smaller calibers or lower-capacity guns just because of this article. It was more just to get people thinking about the situations that could be faced in a real scenario.

The opening barrage of this fight was simply the officer trying to put at many rounds at his adversary as possible (suppressive fire) as quickly as possible to give him some time to escape. He obviously scored several wounding shots, but it wasn't until he slowed down and took well-aimed shots that the fight was effectively finished.

Some of what I think this fight does go to prove:

1. Well-aimed shots are key.
2. There is no "wonder" caliber or "wonder" bullet. Handguns are the bottom-end of the terminal effectiveness scale.
3. Capacity or the ability to reload quickly can make a difference.