Rest stops. There is no law that prohibits carry at a rest stop.
And yes that includes the bathrooms.
Sent from an undisclosed location.
And yes that includes the bathrooms.
Sent from an undisclosed location.
Rest stops. There is no law that prohibits carry at a rest stop.
And yes that includes the bathrooms.
Sent from an undisclosed location.
It is legal to carry at a hotel/inn in the state. However, the proprietor can tell you no. Or if there is a no firearms sign posted you cannot have them in the hotel/inn. But it is similar to being on private property with a firearm and being told to leave. Just with higher direct consequences of losing your lodging and possibly dealing with a dickish hotel management who might try to refuse to refund your stay. Despite the below stating the most they can dock you is how much you've used rounded up to the closest full day. Because of course no motel management have NEVER been predatory or dickish to anyone ever. And of course all police know all laws in detail. So when they show up after you've gotten into an argument with the motel management that they are kicking you out and refusing to refund your stay, there is no chance you won't get arrested in the end or anything else like that.If there are to be any changes to where gun owners can and cannot carry, the legislative session starts on January 11th and ends on April 10th. I think that any employee should be able to take the same class that we do so that he/she can carry in state parks, state forests, state rest stops, schools, and churches. I heard about an arrest at a hotel after law enforcement was made aware of firearms in a room at a hotel/inn. I am on the fence about people carrying a firearm at a hotel/inn.
Maryland Manual On-Line, n.d., 2023 Legislative Session, https://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/07leg/html/sessions/2023.html
That's for sure. Both see my full text on the inn keeper law. Also if you go to COMAR on the rest stops, it just says display or discharge is prohibited.Beware that MSP’s list lacks context on some of those.
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Awesome! Thank you so much.It is legal to carry at a hotel/inn in the state. However, the proprietor can tell you no. Or if there is a no firearms sign posted you cannot have them in the hotel/inn. But it is similar to being on private property with a firearm and being told to leave. Just with higher direct consequences of losing your lodging and possibly dealing with a dickish hotel management who might try to refuse to refund your stay. Despite the below stating the most they can dock you is how much you've used rounded up to the closest full day. Because of course no motel management have NEVER been predatory or dickish to anyone ever. And of course all police know all laws in detail. So when they show up after you've gotten into an argument with the motel management that they are kicking you out and refusing to refund your stay, there is no chance you won't get arrested in the end or anything else like that.
So long as there are no signs and no one says anything, you are okay. I'd be extremely discrete however on many levels. I don't want someone knowing there are guns in my room to steal if I, say, go out to dinner. And if they haven't posted and don't say anything, why bring attention to it and give them that chance to say no?
IMHO, you are probably just fine in Western or Eastern Maryland. Probably southern Maryland. MoCo, Hoco, Baltimore, maybe a lot less so. It is a reason when I go out hunting in Western Maryland and the Eastern shore I choose to stay at motels where room access is from the outside so less chance of management seeing me carrying a rifle case into my room and having that chance to tell me "we don't want your kind here".
See (a)(7) and all of (b). Operative word is MAY refuse. Not must.
Maryland Business Regulation Section 15-203
law.justia.com
(a) An innkeeper may refuse to provide lodging or services to or may remove from a lodging establishment an individual who:
(1) refuses to pay or is unable to pay for lodging or services;
(2) while on the premises of the lodging establishment is under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or other intoxicating substance so as to create a public nuisance;
(3) while on the premises is disorderly so as to create a public nuisance;
(4) destroys, damages, or defaces property of the lodging establishment or its guests, or threatens to do so;
(5) the innkeeper reasonably believes is using the lodging establishment for the unlawful possession or use of a controlled dangerous substance in violation of Title 5 of the Criminal Law Article or for the consumption of alcohol by an individual under the age of 21 years in violation of Article 2B, § 12-108 of the Code;
(6) the innkeeper reasonably believes possesses property that may be dangerous to other individuals, such as firearms or explosives; or
(7) refuses to abide by any conspicuously posted rule or policy of the lodging establishment.
(b) (1) If an innkeeper seeks to remove an individual from a lodging establishment as provided under this section, the innkeeper shall:
(i) notify the individual, either orally or in writing, that the lodging establishment refuses to provide further lodging or services to the individual and that the individual should immediately leave the lodging establishment; and
(ii) if the individual has paid for lodging or services in advance, refund any unused portion of the advance payment, but the lodging establishment may withhold payment for a full day's lodging if the individual was lodged for a portion of a day.
(2) If an individual attempts to remain in a lodging establishment after having been requested to leave under the provisions of this section, an innkeeper may:
(i) if the individual is a guest, lock the door of the individual's room;
(ii) remove the individual's baggage and other personal property; and
(iii) using no more force than necessary, eject the individual from the lodging establishment.
As I mentioned in that, the mindfulness that they can kick you out and your only real recourse is to obey and if they aren't being reasonable on the charges for whatever part of your stay you didn't use, you can maybe argue with your credit card company. I guess you could all the police to try to resolve it, but I doubt they'll be helpful (and TBH, why would police be helpful in trying to resolve a dispute between a merchant and customer? That isn't their job).Awesome! Thank you so much.
Realistically, I would only have the gun in a guncase, not on my person, so that nobody would actually see the gun. I do not have reloading supplies at the moment, but I do anticipate having them in the future if ammunition were to be too expensive to buy in bulk.As I mentioned in that, the mindfulness that they can kick you out and your only real recourse is to obey and if they aren't being reasonable on the charges for whatever part of your stay you didn't use, you can maybe argue with your credit card company. I guess you could all the police to try to resolve it, but I doubt they'll be helpful (and TBH, why would police be helpful in trying to resolve a dispute between a merchant and customer? That isn't their job).
Also I have heard from several LEO and ex-LEO that "you can't have a gun in an inn in Maryland". Which is of course inaccurate. Of note, you cannot have smokeless powder or black powder in an inn in Maryland (that is actually a crime, so also if you are staying somewhere don't bring your reloading supplies into your room, or muzzle loader hunting).
So I'd guess a reasonable chance if hotel/motel management decided to call police on you because they saw you had a gun/gun in your room, you'd have a high likelihood of getting arrested, or at least spend awhile getting a supervisor and probably getting things worked out. To me a high likelihood means better than 1 in 10 when it comes to the pain that would involve and also now having an arrest record. I'd imagine not a good chance of an "inn keeper" just calling police on you. But also see my advice when it comes where I wouldn't chance having a gun at a motel, hotel, or holiday inn in this state.
Maybe one of the other things that will get smoothed out with time and expanded W&C in Maryland is better acceptance of guns places where they are already legal, but might be excluded, with high consequences for the person being excluded.
Likely intentional. They can incriminate more people.It seems that a lot of MD laws concerning firearms are not clearly written.
I agree with you on that. From what I understand, the Obama administration started the train on what would be classified as "profit" in order to make distinctions between ordinary people and FFLs (Federal Firearms Licensees). Would $10, $50, or $100 be considered "profit"? How many sales would be considered illegal? You cannot use a blanket rule on everybody.Likely intentional. They can incriminate more people.
Always nice to know your state legislative body is out to **** you over. Lol.
And people wonder why I don’t trust any politicians.
Also, it's like football. We represent the referees because if we do not know the rules, we will ruin it for everyone, no matter which team we penalize a player from. If we do know the rules, we can prevent a player from breaking them and keeping everyone in line.Politics is intrinsically a game of screwing over the other team.
Then the MGA are porn starsPolitics is intrinsically a game of screwing over the other team.
Oklahoma is constitutional carry though tooI stayed in Broken Bow Oklahoma and no worries , spend 7 nights in the wilderness. Had two pistols with me and three other guys were carrying one or two guns.
It is legal to carry at a hotel/inn in the state. However, the proprietor can tell you no. Or if there is a no firearms sign posted you cannot have them in the hotel/inn. But it is similar to being on private property with a firearm and being told to leave. Just with higher direct consequences of losing your lodging and possibly dealing with a dickish hotel management who might try to refuse to refund your stay. Despite the below stating the most they can dock you is how much you've used rounded up to the closest full day. Because of course no motel management have NEVER been predatory or dickish to anyone ever. And of course all police know all laws in detail. So when they show up after you've gotten into an argument with the motel management that they are kicking you out and refusing to refund your stay, there is no chance you won't get arrested in the end or anything else like that.
So long as there are no signs and no one says anything, you are okay. I'd be extremely discrete however on many levels. I don't want someone knowing there are guns in my room to steal if I, say, go out to dinner. And if they haven't posted and don't say anything, why bring attention to it and give them that chance to say no?
IMHO, you are probably just fine in Western or Eastern Maryland. Probably southern Maryland. MoCo, Hoco, Baltimore, maybe a lot less so. It is a reason when I go out hunting in Western Maryland and the Eastern shore I choose to stay at motels where room access is from the outside so less chance of management seeing me carrying a rifle case into my room and having that chance to tell me "we don't want your kind here".
See (a)(7) and all of (b). Operative word is MAY refuse. Not must.
Maryland Business Regulation Section 15-203
law.justia.com
(a) An innkeeper may refuse to provide lodging or services to or may remove from a lodging establishment an individual who:
(1) refuses to pay or is unable to pay for lodging or services;
(2) while on the premises of the lodging establishment is under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or other intoxicating substance so as to create a public nuisance;
(3) while on the premises is disorderly so as to create a public nuisance;
(4) destroys, damages, or defaces property of the lodging establishment or its guests, or threatens to do so;
(5) the innkeeper reasonably believes is using the lodging establishment for the unlawful possession or use of a controlled dangerous substance in violation of Title 5 of the Criminal Law Article or for the consumption of alcohol by an individual under the age of 21 years in violation of Article 2B, § 12-108 of the Code;
(6) the innkeeper reasonably believes possesses property that may be dangerous to other individuals, such as firearms or explosives; or
(7) refuses to abide by any conspicuously posted rule or policy of the lodging establishment.
(b) (1) If an innkeeper seeks to remove an individual from a lodging establishment as provided under this section, the innkeeper shall:
(i) notify the individual, either orally or in writing, that the lodging establishment refuses to provide further lodging or services to the individual and that the individual should immediately leave the lodging establishment; and
(ii) if the individual has paid for lodging or services in advance, refund any unused portion of the advance payment, but the lodging establishment may withhold payment for a full day's lodging if the individual was lodged for a portion of a day.
(2) If an individual attempts to remain in a lodging establishment after having been requested to leave under the provisions of this section, an innkeeper may:
(i) if the individual is a guest, lock the door of the individual's room;
(ii) remove the individual's baggage and other personal property; and
(iii) using no more force than necessary, eject the individual from the lodging establishment.