SB387 "Public Safety - Untraceable Firearms" - The Ban on Private Firearm Making

[Slackdaddy]

When this law doesn’t work and theres still a “ghost gun epidemic” in the streets i wonder what new law they will come up with to “fix” the issue.

Wellll, funny you ask.
Ron Watson (Dem MD Sen) when he was asked this very question in committee. He clearly stated that if banning the "ghost guns" does not bring "gun violence down",, They will work on restricting access to ammo"

 

[Dingo222]

When this law doesn’t work and theres still a “ghost gun epidemic” in the streets i wonder what new law they will come up with to “fix” the issue.

Mayor Scott will just sue them. Gmafb

Baltimore's Mayor Scott To Announce Lawsuit Against Ghost Gun Manufacturer

Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott will announce on Wednesday that the city has filed a lawsuit against Ghost Gun manufacturer Polymer80, Inc.

baltimore.cbslocal.com

 

[cantstop]

Wellll, funny you ask.
Ron Watson (Dem MD Sen) when he was asked this very question in committee. He clearly stated that if banning the "ghost guns" does not bring "gun violence down",, They will work on restricting access to ammo"

The pressure on Wally World to stop selling handgun ammo, .223 & 5.56 shows that this has been part of the plan all along.

It reminds me of when MSM targeted K-Mart for selling guns and ammo. They did a pretty good slam job on K-Mart.

 

[ironpony]

It would be interesting to see if someone to were to receive a not disapproved on a non-FFL engraved PMF. Or wait maybe registration does not need approval.

FFL in Edgewater said they are not touching PMFs.

 

[beetles]

It would be interesting to see if someone to were to receive a not disapproved on a non-FFL engraved PMF. Or wait maybe registration does not need approval.

FFL in Edgewater said they are not touching PMFs.

His choice. There will be some who will provide the service. There already are.

 

[ironpony]

His choice. There will be some who will provide the service. There already are.

That was meant for the other thread, I mentioned I would report back, out of context, my bad.

 

[sygata]

"HAS REACHED A STAGE IN MANUFACTURE WHERE IT MAY READILY BE COMPLETED, ASSEMBLED, OR CONVERTED TO BE USED AS THE FRAME OR RECEIVER OF A FUNCTIONAL FIREARM"
What does "readily" means in this context? Does a 0% AR receiver could be "readily completed"? What about 70% or AK bended blank?

 

[DC-W]

MSI has a new guide: https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/information/privately-made-firearms-in-maryland

 

[scottyfz6]

Ok this is all theoretical.

The state is looking for you to register the 80% or the gun made from it using your zip code, initials then a number. Yes this is supposed to be done by a FFL, but beyond the FFL having to enter it into their books. It does not seem like there really is a way for the state police to confirm how it was done.

So lets say you had a way to mark them, then you did the voluntary 77r the state wont really be able to tell you did it wrong. The only thing I can see, would be for the state police to start comparing reviews of the FFL book to their records. Seems like a lot of work to do for the state police.

 

[Allen65]

Ok this is all theoretical.

The state is looking for you to register the 80% or the gun made from it using your zip code, initials then a number. Yes this is supposed to be done by a FFL, but beyond the FFL having to enter it into their books. It does not seem like there really is a way for the state police to confirm how it was done.

So lets say you had a way to mark them, then you did the voluntary 77r the state wont really be able to tell you did it wrong. The only thing I can see, would be for the state police to start comparing reviews of the FFL book to their records. Seems like a lot of work to do for the state police.

Don't forget that if asked by law enforcement who conducted the engraving, you have an absolute right under the 5th Amendment to refuse to answer the question.

 

[babalou]

I have seen many huge Santa Claus sized bags of purple six sided dildos they can suck.

 

[lazarus]

Thanks for eloquating the info almost verbatim as to how I scan and register the facts in my mind too.

It is pretty telling how Conservatives get the bad rap from the Left for how we treat the black population, yet studies and facts and statistics tell the unbiased stories.

Imagine the numbers and economic power and influence another 50% survival rate of black and brown and Asian ( (Chinese etc) would have on our world.

Can you even imagine if even 1/10th of these pre and post birth babies of all colors and creeds had been rescued from abortion, drug deaths, gun, knife, bomb etc deaths.

How many Ben Carson's, Jackie Robinsons, Clarence Thomas's, Thomas Sowell, Walter E Williams's, Marie Curie, Bea Gatty's have we basically discarded as if they were common garbage hauled off to landfills and incinerators? Sad

Or the impact on their families raising extra kids they likely already can't support. Or supporting them would push them in to poverty.

There is another side to the coin. Not just more good. The vast majority of women choose to have an abortion for reasons that are very good (at least to them). Those pushing for abortion bans also usually aren't pushing to help support kids and families that they are determined to force women to have. That is largely why the numbers skew towards black women for who has an abortion. It is typically those with less financial means and social safety nets who are more likely to have an abortion.

Abortions happen a lot less often in countries with strong social safety nets and health care (better access to education and contraceptives to prevent unwanted pregnancies to start with and women in a better position to support accidental children when it does happen).

 

[sygata]

Or the impact on their families raising extra kids they likely already can't support. Or supporting them would push them in to poverty.

There is another side to the coin. Not just more good. The vast majority of women choose to have an abortion for reasons that are very good (at least to them). Those pushing for abortion bans also usually aren't pushing to help support kids and families that they are determined to force women to have. That is largely why the numbers skew towards black women for who has an abortion. It is typically those with less financial means and social safety nets who are more likely to have an abortion.

Abortions happen a lot less often in countries with strong social safety nets and health care (better access to education and contraceptives to prevent unwanted pregnancies to start with and women in a better position to support accidental children when it does happen).

Just a little history:
In 1936, Stalin made abortion illegal. According to the new law, those who performed abortions could be sentenced to up to three years in prison. Women who chose to abort could be subject to fines. The birth rate increased after the law was first enacted, but the increase lasted less than two years. By 1938, the birth rate again began to drop, and by 1940, it returned to its 1935 level before the abortion prohibition went into effect. And, by 1939, the abortion rate was higher than it was in 1926 when the procedure was legal.

 

[Mofiki]

MSI has a new guide: https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/information/privately-made-firearms-in-maryland

They seem to have forgotten the printed frame/receiver rules msp says must be serialized by the 30th day after completion and completely nullifying the requirements on 3d printed peices.

 

[KIBarrister]

Don't forget that if asked by law enforcement who conducted the engraving, you have an absolute right under the 5th Amendment to refuse to answer the question.

“Deny everything, admit nothing, make counter accusations.”

Seriously though, there is never any reason to talk to the police and answer their questions unless: a) you have discussed it with a competent attorney, b) the competent attorney has affirmatively advised you to do so, and c) preferably the attorney is present with you when you have the discussion.

Anyone discussing what they would or should tell a LEO if being investigated for a “PMF” (or anything else) is already wrong and will lose. The answer, in honor of shut the fvck up Friday, is to shut the fvck up. They are not your friend, they will NOT “help you out,” they legally can and will lie to you, and they will laugh about how stupid you were in falling for it later.

 

[GuitarmanNick]

My dad is a retired Baltimore City Sergeant. When I was very young he told me that if I was ever questioned by police to be congenial, but to keep quiet until he or an attorney was present.
Good advice, IMO.

 

[DC-W]

“Deny everything, admit nothing, make counter accusations.”

Seriously though, there is never any reason to talk to the police and answer their questions unless: a) you have discussed it with a competent attorney, b) the competent attorney has affirmatively advised you to do so, and c) preferably the attorney is present with you when you have the discussion.

Anyone discussing what they would or should tell a LEO if being investigated for a “PMF” (or anything else) is already wrong and will lose. The answer, in honor of shut the fvck up Friday, is to shut the fvck up. They are not your friend, they will NOT “help you out,” they legally can and will lie to you, and they will laugh about how stupid you were in falling for it later.

 

[Ponder_MD]

I like that.

 

[Athelney878]

So when are MSI and FPC filing a suit to challenge this?

 

[DGC6262]

If anyone registers their AK let us know how it works for you