SB1 (2023) - Criminal Law - Wearing, Carrying, or Transporting Firearms - Restrictions (Gun Safety Act of 2023)

[JoeyBimmer]

They can KMA I keep at least one firearm loaded condition 1 at all times. Anything else is useless for home defense. Even MD case law respects defense in one's home.

Case law.

MGA could write a bill about it and try to make it illegal to defend yourself in your home. The nonsense of a government wanting someone to leave their home if they are attacked is frustrating.

 

[JoeyBimmer]

Current bill. It isn't law yet.

Yeah, it is stricter than what current transport law is. It appears to only apply to transport in these new areas.

Which is kind of crazy, since the laws appear to only apply to buildings for the most part. Limited exceptions like "at a protest". Of course how are you supposed to know a protest is happening when it is "within 100 yards away" from a protest, so long as there are no gun signs. And if you do find yourself driving through one, you should have already removed your carry gun, unloaded it, and locked up the gun.

It is batshit crazy.

The protest part states,

"WITHIN 100 YARDS OF A PLACE WHERE A PUBLIC 3 GATHERING, A DEMONSTRATION, OR AN EVENT WHICH REQUIRES A PERMIT FROM 4 THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY IS BEING HELD, IF SIGNS POSTED BY A LAW 5 ENFORCEMENT AGENCY CONSPICUOUSLY AND REASONABLY INFORM MEMBERS OF 6 THE PUBLIC THAT THE WEARING, CARRYING, AND TRANSPORTING OF FIREARMS IS 7 PROHIBITED."

 

[ironpony]

Doesn't matter MSP would have no problem picking up the tab the locals refuse to.

Is this in reference to people with MD wear and carry permits as well?

If in regards to the transport, yes, before Bruen there were not enough permits to worry about, they say its always been the case (locked). Sounds like they get their info from Worth a shot hahaha

 

[eruby]

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[Lafayette]

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I think it’s code. There will be PG (not x-rated) moms at a Bowie Panera at 1300.

They may still be MILFs though.

 

[swinokur]

I think it’s code. There will be PG (not x-rated) moms at a Bowie Panera at 1300.

They may still be MILFs though.

Nor even with yours

 

[PapiBarcelona]

The MSI list is confusing a lot of people on the Locked gun storage/transport?

In the current bill
(A) is all the new carry restrictions

(B) THIS SECTION DOES NOT APPLY TO:
10) A FIREARM THAT IS CARRIED OR TRANSPORTED IN A MOTOR 26 VEHICLE IF THE FIREARM IS: 27 (I) UNLOADED; AND 28 (II) LOCKED IN A CONTAINER THAT IS SEPARATE FROM ANY 29 AMMUNITION THAT IS SUITABLE FOR USE IN THE FIREARM.


I noticed a few people I talked to believe it's a total ban on carry in a vehicle? Example; MD W&C permit holder who decides to drive around their neighborhood real quick and then return home (no sensitive places) has to lock up their unloaded gun.

That doesn't seem right because it's even worse if you actually read what's in the amended bill, because it says carried OR transported in a motor vehicle.

 

[Abuck]

The protest part states,

"WITHIN 100 YARDS OF A PLACE WHERE A PUBLIC 3 GATHERING, A DEMONSTRATION, OR AN EVENT WHICH REQUIRES A PERMIT FROM 4 THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY IS BEING HELD, IF SIGNS POSTED BY A LAW 5 ENFORCEMENT AGENCY CONSPICUOUSLY AND REASONABLY INFORM MEMBERS OF 6 THE PUBLIC THAT THE WEARING, CARRYING, AND TRANSPORTING OF FIREARMS IS 7 PROHIBITED."

So they recognize you have rights, just don’t go exercising several of them at the same time comrade.

 

[shootin the breeze]

Nor even with yours

If they got a proper d*cking maybe they'd change their tune.

 

[esqappellate]

The MSI list is confusing a lot of people on the Locked gun storage/transport?

In the current bill
(A) is all the new carry restrictions

(B) THIS SECTION DOES NOT APPLY TO:
10) A FIREARM THAT IS CARRIED OR TRANSPORTED IN A MOTOR 26 VEHICLE IF THE FIREARM IS: 27 (I) UNLOADED; AND 28 (II) LOCKED IN A CONTAINER THAT IS SEPARATE FROM ANY 29 AMMUNITION THAT IS SUITABLE FOR USE IN THE FIREARM.


I noticed a few people I talked to believe it's a total ban on carry in a vehicle? Example; MD W&C permit holder who decides to drive around their neighborhood real quick and then return home (no sensitive places) has to lock up their unloaded gun.

That doesn't seem right because it's even worse if you actually read what's in the amended bill, because it says carried OR transported in a motor vehicle.

So, no. The mode of transport is an EXCEPTION to the bans on firearms (all firearms) otherwise imposed IN THAT SECTION. If you are outside those areas, the exception does not apply at all. If you have a carry permit, then carry as you always carried outside those areas. If you don't have a carry permit, but are transporting a handgun, then the limits on such transport otherwise imposed by Section 4-203 continue to apply. If you are transporting a long gun outside those areas, there is no restriction at all other than the gun must be unloaded.

 

[44man]

So, no. The mode of transport is an EXCEPTION to the bans on firearms (all firearms) otherwise imposed IN THAT SECTION. If you are outside those areas, the exception does not apply at all. If you have a carry permit, then carry as you always carried outside those areas. If you don't have a carry permit, but are transporting a handgun, then the limits on such transport otherwise imposed by Section 4-203 continue to apply. If you are transporting a long gun outside those areas, there is no restriction at all other than the gun must be unloaded.

Thank you for clearing that up, I was quite confused also

 

[Pax]

So, no. The mode of transport is an EXCEPTION to the bans on firearms (all firearms) otherwise imposed IN THAT SECTION. If you are outside those areas, the exception does not apply at all. If you have a carry permit, then carry as you always carried outside those areas. If you don't have a carry permit, but are transporting a handgun, then the limits on such transport otherwise imposed by Section 4-203 continue to apply. If you are transporting a long gun outside those areas, there is no restriction at all other than the gun must be unloaded.

Am I reading the new law correctly that while driving in the car on a state owned road or interstate the firearm must be unloaded with the firearm and ammunition totally separate?

Is this also true?

thanks

 

[esqappellate]

Is this also true?

thanks

Right. If it is an exception, then it applies only to those areas identified in SB1. As long as you stay out of those areas (identified and defined in Section 4-111(a)), the exceptions set out in Section 4-111(b), do not apply. Outside those areas, the existing rules apply.

 

[JohnnyE]

OMG, what a Byzantine set of laws to follow. They vex and confuse in pursuit of no meaningful public purpose. They collectively clearly have the effect, if not actually the design, of having a chilling effect on the exercise of Constitutional rights.

 

[PapiBarcelona]

Is this also true?

thanks

Im not seeing anything roads, the bill just says buildings owned/leased by state and local.gov

 

[Biggfoot44]

What are the chances of SB-01 even passing into law?

And what are they trying to do, nitpick at the CCW law enough to dissuade people, turning it into an almost inconvenience to try to carry since we can’t even take them to retail stores and restaurants?? Even though the state of Maryland GAVE us these permits. Where would it even be “legal” to carry??

The democrats are acting like that girl that you break up with, then in spite, lies to everyone that you just got a STD solely for the purpose to keep you from getting laid elsewhere.


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Very high that * something * bearing the name will pass , and whatever that is , will be gleefully signed . What's still in the air is exactly what will be the content .


Yes , absolutely ! Their long standing goal is " Fewer Guns on the Streets " . Their current focus is to make it so much of a hassle and inconvenience , that few will actually legally carry on any quasi regul basis .

 

[Biggfoot44]

I would think many of the county sheriffs and local law enforcement around the state are going to choose to not enforce it?

This is Maryland , not West Virginia .

 

[Trm]

I’m confused after reading these bills. Where can we carry ?

 

[Biggfoot44]

Doesn't matter MSP would have no problem picking up the tab the locals refuse to.

Well , ( while not likely ) it could potentially matter a little .

MSP would absolutely take lead on delibert gun related investigations . The locals might or might not exercise discretion for what they coincidentally run across .

But as discussed in the other thread , would be way less likely nowadays with body cams , than the level of discretion that prevailed historically in the '70s and '80s .

 

[Bertfish]

I’m confused after reading these bills. Where can we carry ?

You didn't read it then