SB1 (2023) - Criminal Law - Wearing, Carrying, or Transporting Firearms - Restrictions (Gun Safety Act of 2023)

[teratos]

Shenanigans are afoot

"changed"

 

[lennyk]

Shenanigans are afoot

Yep, from my basic read of SB1, seems that nearly all of it has been deemed unconstitutional by 3 judges in NJ. The only thing left is 21 year old purchase.

 

[rondon600]

They are adding a clause that states restrictions on private property includes LEO. They too need a permission slip.

 

[Bertfish]

They are adding a clause that states restrictions on private property includes LEO. They too need a permission slip.

If sarcasm please indicate

 

[rondon600]

Sarcasm and wishful thinking

 

[Deep Lurker]

This article offers some clues:

Waldstreicher bill would establish gun restrictions, raise purchase age

Legislation aims to impose new controls in wake of Supreme Court's Bruen ruling

bethesdamagazine.com

 

[Deep Lurker]

This article offers some clues:

View attachment 399363

Waldstreicher bill would establish gun restrictions, raise purchase age

Legislation aims to impose new controls in wake of Supreme Court's Bruen ruling

bethesdamagazine.com

WaldstriKKer as usual has to lie about his bill:

“The Bruen decision gets rid of Maryland’s ‘good and substantial’ requirements in order to own and possess a handgun,” said Waldstreicher. “By eliminating that requirement, now anyone can get a gun and bring it anywhere. That is unacceptable and creates a tremendous danger in our state…

“It has forced our hand here in the legislature, and we need to act.”

Mark Pennak of MSI gets in his licks:

“It would adversely affect public safety. It certainly would adversely affect the rights of concealed carry permit holders to be able to protect themselves,” said Mark Pennak, president of Maryland Shall Issue, a Maryland gun rights group. “It will have no effect on actually promoting public safety because everyone agrees – permit holders do not commit crimes.”

“It is so plainly contrary to how the Supreme Court ruled in Bruen that it effectively denies the right to public safety in all urban and many rural areas in Maryland,” said Pennak. “This area doesn’t even begin to qualify as a sensitive area under the Supreme Court’s ruling, so it’s dead on arrival, because if it does pass, we will bring suit, and it will fail.”

Jill Carter’s comment, perhaps the most significant, is of course buried at the end:

“Sen. Jill Carter, D-Baltimore City, member of the Judicial Proceedings Committee, said that further distinctions must be made to decipher which public places qualify as sensitive.”

“I can certainly understand the lack of permission if someone has private property and they don’t want it there; they have every right to prohibit it,” said Carter. “However, I think that we are going to have some conversations about the 100 feet within public accommodations because that’s very broad.”

*** Looks like one Dem identity politics group didn’t bother to check with another Dem identity politics group - - as usual - - and took them for granted, and the second group just got woke.***

 

[Mark75H]

Very insightful of Senator Carter.

 

[winch]

I’m glad that MSI is fighting this crap legislation. I just sent them more $$$.

 

[swinokur]

“By eliminating that requirement, now anyone can get a gun and bring it anywhere. “

What a lying disingenuous sackajawea.

Apologies to native Americans

Stick this legislation up your arse you statist worm

 

[FPL53]

I have not read all 350 posts so I don't know if it has not already been brought up but doesn't SB-1 violate the constitution on the separation of Church and State when a state Bill or law says I cannot carry in a Synagogue, Church or Mosque. If a Rabbi says I can carry within the confines of the Synagogue and its properties, the government cannot have any say in that. Or, am I thinking wrong? I was thinking about that when the piece of chit Waldwhatever walked past the Patriot Picket on Monday.

 

[swinokur]

Amongst many other unconstitutional infringements.

 

[kshaw]

Is MSI also challenging the proposed age restrictions? That has already been overturned in a few lower courts.

 

[gtodave]

SB1 is racist!

Like, for real. Look at 3 of the top 4 jurisdictions with the most permit holders: BaltCo, Balt City, PG Co. Any bill that targets people in these communities more than the rest of the state is automatically racist, by the D's own standards.

See here for proof (ST police numbers from the other thread): https://files.constantcontact.com/879a3436601/acdc6045-3542-4978-acde-7be8c7fc4b96.pdf?rdr=true

 

[Bertfish]

Is MSI also challenging the proposed age restrictions? That has already been overturned in a few lower courts.

No bill has passed. No one to sue yet.

 

[randomuser]

Have a peaceful million man march with an actual million people blocking all entrances to the mga and don't let them into the building to talk about this. This would be a message that they would have to hear. Other than something extreme like that it will fall on deaf ears. They only permit people to oppose and speak because it is protocol, not because it changes anything.

NO pro gun lobby group could possibly affect the change using the courts in the same manner as the citizens using the streets.

Imagine if George Washington Stopped after he wrote a sternly worded letter and imagine if he asked to speak in court to get his point across and change their mind. How do you think things would have gone had he gone that route. I'm not saying that violence is needed. I am saying that fighting in court is a way that things erode at a slightly slower pace. They need to realize that the people won't tolerate bs. They don't have that realization because people play their game.

 

[swinokur]

I dunno. Bruen seemed pretty effective

 

[lennyk]

New Jersey has slapped "sensitive places."

Judge Bumb Decision in Siegel v Platkin

So this begs the question....what are they doing?? Legal opinion already exists.

 

[Blacksmith101]

New Jersey has slapped "sensitive places."

Judge Bumb Decision in Siegel v Platkin

So this begs the question....what are they doing?? Legal opinion already exists.

That only relates to the TRO.

 

[swinokur]

And different circuit.

And most importantly they don’t care