SB1 (2023) - Criminal Law - Wearing, Carrying, or Transporting Firearms - Restrictions (Gun Safety Act of 2023)

[workshop777]

*Yes, I know the suits don't all hit the exact, same issues. But it's still a win if we can knock out some of the most noxious parts of the new law.

Not a win... just less of a loss.

 

[thomfantomas]

I have a member id when i log in!does that technically classify me as a plaintiff?

I can print my membership card,i joined years ago.

!.?

 

[pcfixer]

MSI is representing its members, as is saf and fpc. Any judgment will inure to the benefit of all the members of each org. who have carry permits. The suit is a a facial attack, not an as applied challenge. The State will not enforce a statute declared to be facially unconstitutional. It would be just too dumb for words and they are not that dumb.

interesting statement! Our prayer for relief is a Full PI , judgment in our favor of course.

 

[dblas]

This latest round illustrates a cpl of my usual points :

1. Despite what "we" think , to the Opposition , the NRA is still the 800 lb gorilla . The main name they recognize , and the one they fear .

I'm fine with the Anti-2A crowd focusing all of their energy on the NRA, but in Maryland, after Shannon left, MSI became the 800 lb gorilla in Annapolis.

2 . They get more energized to earn their bones to " Fight the NRA " , than they would over the underlying issues

And in doing so, they let MSI, and to a lesser extent SAF, GOA, and others, slide into the room without an issue.

On one level it's frustrating to see NRA steal the thunder of the other National 2A Orgs and independent state level Orgs . But hopefully it will leave them distracted to be smacked by the other better prepared Orgs flying under their radar .

I don't think they are stealing any thunder, I think the name recognition is what made it the lead lawsuit over the MSI et al. lawsuit. And I'm fine with that at the national level, and for MOMs and MPGV to concentrate their efforts and energy against. Let them beat themselves against that wall, it keeps our intact.

 

[dblas]

I don't know if the NRA is really still the 800lb gorilla, but it's definitely being useful drawing rhetorical fire away from the other groups like MSI and SAF who can do the heavy lifting. Let the Antis concentrate their legal and PR resources on fighting the "Evil NRA" while ignoring the solidly argued briefs coming from other plaintiffs.

It doesn't matter which of the suits wins, as long as one does. To me, the most significant threat is they all get joined into one by the courts and we end up with an Anti judge at District who drags their feet on a TRO/PI and final decision, and/or we have to face a single hostile panel at 4CA for all the cases. Two different District judges not granting a PI and third granting one means a PI is in place; the two "no"s don't negate the "yes".* Ultimately we'll win at SCOTUS, but the Antis can make it an expensive, long slog to get there.


*Yes, I know the suits don't all hit the exact, same issues. But it's still a win if we can knock out some of the most noxious parts of the new law.

^^^^^ This ^^^^^

 

[dblas]

This is in the minds of the antis. They know not what they do...

Let them continue to ignore the State level organization and the "lesser" national organizations, to their peril.

 

[dblas]

!.?

When was the last time you paid your membership?

 

[thomfantomas]

When was the last time you paid your membership?

2016....

But my membership doesn't have an expiration if i wanted to print my card!

 

[Bertfish]

2016....

But my membership doesn't have an expiration if i wanted to print my card!

Then you're not a current member

You help instruct carry permit courses. Why the hell aren't you an MSI member?

 

[thomfantomas]

Then you're not a current member

You help instruct carry permit courses. Why the hell aren't you an MSI member?

I will be!!!

 

[dblas]

2016....

But my membership doesn't have an expiration if i wanted to print my card!

You need to re-up to be an active member.

 

[Threeband]

2016....

But my membership doesn't have an expiration if i wanted to print my card!

Click on this link.

Pay $25

Join All Membership - Maryland Shall Issue®, Inc.

Maryland Shall Issue® (MSI) is an all-volunteer, non-partisan organization dedicated to the preservation and advancement of gun owners' rights in Maryland. It seeks to educate the community about the right of self-protection, the safe handling of firearms, and the responsibility that goes with...

www.marylandshallissue.org

 

[pcfixer]

My card has an expiration date on it. lower right corner.

Keep up the yearly card, your behind.

@thomfantomas​

 

[thomfantomas]

I'm officially a member now

 

[Bob A]

I'm officially a member now

Do you have a specific member that you identify as?

 

[thomfantomas]

Do you have a specific member that you identify as?

General

 

[coinboy]

Well, that's interesting....

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"4 Maryland laws going into effect in July: Title IX, cannabis, firearms, students with disabilities"​

"ANNAPOLIS, Md. (DC News Now) — New legislation will take effect next month in Maryland."

"From Title IX information being provided at schools to the search and seizure of cannabis, here are a few laws going into effect on July 1."
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"Prohibiting firearms in certain areas"​

"The law prohibits someone from wearing, carrying or transporting a firearm to specific areas — such as somebody’s personal property or onto government or public areas — unless they have specified exceptions."

"The bill also states that the Secretary of State Police will no longer be able to mandate when and where people can carry their firearms."

"Anyone who violates this law could face either up to one year in jail or a fine of up to $1,000 or both.

3 Maryland laws going into effect in July: Title IX, marijuana, students with disabilities

Editor’s Note — A previous version of this story included a change in gun laws that goes into effect on October 1. That particular element of the story has been removed. ANNAPOLIS, Md. …

www.dcnewsnow.com

 

[Decoy]

Criminal Law - Wearing, Carrying, or Transporting Firearms - Restrictions (Gun Safety Act of 2023)

Effective Date(s): October 1, 2023

 

[Bertfish]

Haven't seen any of the actual regulation text yet. Wonder how long it'll be til that is published

 

[Mark75H]

Haven't seen any of the actual regulation text yet. Wonder how long it'll be til that is published

This is not an unknown, under the Maryland Constitution, we do not see it until the special combined committee approves what the state police propose in COMAR in September