Ridiculous take on Bruen

[gtodave]

It the "Who didn't see this coming?" department, we have a re-energized call for more gun control after the recent CA shootings, per this article:

MSN

And in that article is this little gem:

even as individual states have increased their gun control measures, the conservative-leaning Supreme Court has undermined much of this progress with some of its recent decisions. Last year’s Bruen Ruling, for example, invalidated the "good cause" provision previously included in the permitting systems in six states, which allowed officials to deny firearm purchases to people who pose a known public safety risk.

That's what some people have taken away from the Bruen decision. They actually think that people with disqualifying marks on their record can now buy a gun, because of Bruen. People are so f*cking dumb. No clue at all that Bruen is about carrying a gun for law-abiding people, not purchasing.

It should be of note that our good friend Shannon Watts is quoted in this article too.

 

[outrider58]

The truth no longer matters. The narrative has taken its place.
We are so devided now that you are either for something or you are against it. There's no room for discussion.

 

[delaware_export]

Well, not some people. Just the usual culprits that write or publish such articles. They have hated the 2a for ever, supported all the old rulings, means end that “justified” such things.

i mean, there is no real surprise. Is there?

and let’s face it, it’s on MSN, the anti 2a site… and about Cali, who has long since done away with serious punishment for murderous , heinous crimes.

 

[lazarus]

Another take away from that statement, so does that mean that 44 states were already issuing permits to people who were known safety risks already?

Just loons.

 

[RFBfromDE]

Blood in the streets!

 

[md_rick_o]

Any state or jurisdiction that plea bargains away gun crimes that would disallow future ownership do allow it.

 

[alucard0822]

News is basically entertainment or propaganda, usually both.

 

[Blacksmith101]

First lie:
"even as individual states have increased their gun control measures,"
The majority of states have been decreasing gun control measures for decades!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Right_to_Carry%2C_timeline.gif

 

[Biggfoot44]

First lie:
"even as individual states have increased their gun control measures,"
The majority of states have been decreasing gun control measures for decades!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Right_to_Carry%2C_timeline.gif

Overly broad statement .

Carry laws have broadly been becoming less restrictive .

Purchasing processes , and " scary looking gun " laws have been a mixed bag , including individual states going different directions on the different aspects.

 

[Blacksmith101]

Overly broad statement .

Carry laws have broadly been becoming less restrictive .

Purchasing processes , and " scary looking gun " laws have been a mixed bag , including individual states going different directions on the different aspects.

Not any broader than the statement in the article.

 

[Billyb]

How about this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/22/california-gun-laws-monterey-park-shooting/

“ a country where gun ownership is widely considered a constitutionally protected right”

Widely considered? Seriously, that’s fu even for the Post.

 

[Biggfoot44]

We know they're stupid and ignorant , and they delibertly mangle and conflate things .

Our side trys to ( and usually are ) more accurate , and logical .

Yeah , the linked piece was terrible , and a half dozen or more angles to accurately skewer it .

 

[press1280]

The article is just a bunch of gobbley gook. Just overbroad and doesn't even address specifics about the mass shooting that it's supposedly in reaction to.
It's all about "gun violence" with no explanation about the shooter.

I did see a sentence about a Federal license to be able to carry. Are they suggesting a Nationally-recognized license (reciprocity), or just another layer of bureaucracy? I'm sure its the latter but you wouldn't know based on how poorly its written.

 

[MDFF2008]

Wouldn't suprise me if we see an attempt at a National May Issue.

Bigger question I have is why isn't the gun rights movement fighting in the court of public opinion as hard as it fights in law court?

I see commercials now for anti-2a groups. Why don't I see commercials for 2A groups?

Why isn't a commercial running right now highlighting stories of people denied carry permits due to May Issue?

Why aren't commercials going out asking about school security? Or anything else? Or even correcting misinformation.

I'm afraid that the more we lose the court of public opinion, the more the law court becomes a temporary shelter. After all we saw how fast Roe went down. I'm sure an opinion is already written somewhere that holds Heller was incorrectly decided.

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[Boxcab]

How about this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/22/california-gun-laws-monterey-park-shooting/

“ a country where gun ownership is widely considered a constitutionally protected right”

Widely considered? Seriously, that’s fu even for the Post.

In relation to Bruin and the future of 2A...

[Hat tip to judge hearing NJ case]

As the Constitution was being written in Philadelphia, the writers would travel back home occasionally. So picture Thomas Jefferson riding a horse (carriage, or the like) from Philly to central Virginia. He and his entourage would be armed as they rode the trails and roadways that crisscrossed the budding new nation. They road across the each of the old colonies/future states that were becoming the United States. They would overnight at taverns, Inns and homes of friends along the multi-day journey. They would travel through the towns and cities, some we know today. Philadelphia, Annapolis, Richmond, Charlottesville, etc. (DC was still a swamp, awaiting the creatures that now inhabit much of it.)

This IS history and tradition, as lived every day by the Founding Father's. This trip as repeated in similar form by each and every signer of the Constitution, and then again when they gathered to formulate the original Amendments. 55 representatives with names like Washington, Madison, Hamilton, Mason, and Jay.

Once the 2A community polishes stories like these and gets them on record for the Courts to consider, these games being played by State Legislators will be squashed in a timely manner. We just need to get it done.

I can see the light.




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[rbird7282]

Wouldn't suprise me if we see an attempt at a National May Issue.

Bigger question I have is why isn't the gun rights movement fighting in the court of public opinion as hard as it fights in law court?

Why aren't commercials going out asking about school security? Or anything else? Or even correcting misinformation.

I'm afraid that the more we lose the court of public opinion, the more the law court becomes a temporary shelter. After all we saw how fast Roe went down. I'm sure an opinion is already written somewhere that holds Heller was incorrectly decided.

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Because most of the media in owned by the left. They simply wouldn’t allow it. A few years back Daniel Defense was going to have an ad during the Super Bowl (it was posted somewhere on this forum) and it never saw the light of day on national tv.

 

[MDFF2008]

Because most of the media in owned by the left. They simply wouldn’t allow it. A few years back Daniel Defense was going to have an ad during the Super Bowl (it was posted somewhere on this forum) and it never saw the light of day on national tv.

And this is why the killing of the fairness doctrine was one of the dumbest things 80s and 90s Republicans did.

Superbowl is broadcast on over-the-air tv. They should be held to the same standards that the government is, in that mass transit systems generally can't censor messages they don't like in advertising.

 

[Biggfoot44]

I see commercials now for anti-2a groups. Why don't I see commercials for 2A groups?

We don't have a Soros or Bloomberg with essentially unlimited $$$$$ .

 

[HaveBlue]

We don't have a Soros or Bloomberg with essentially unlimited $$$$$ .

The left took our money to fund the ATF. Then we have to pay lawyers to fights them.

I’m not sure the people we pay to place the ads wouldn‘t turn around and donate to a group like MDA.

 

[owldo]

The thing I think is hilarious is that liberals believe that if the SHTF the military and police agency's are going to stand with them, after all the denigrating that they have done to these institutions. The time is nigh on near friends !