Plane Crash - Tred Avon River

[boatbod]

Employees at the boatyard where I work in Oxford said the engine was cutting in/out when it flew over. Witnesses saw it go down, and the tip of the tail was about 1ft above the water at mid tide. Water depth at the crash site was ~8.5ft, so not particularly deep. Divers recovered the lone occupant about 50 minutes after the crash.

 

[John from MD]

Employees at the boatyard where I work in Oxford said the engine was cutting in/out when it flew over. Witnesses saw it go down, and the tip of the tail was about 1ft above the water at mid tide. Water depth at the crash site was ~8.5ft, so not particularly deep. Divers recovered the lone occupant about 50 minutes after the crash.

That sudden stop ruins your day every time.

 

[Twist]

That sudden stop ruins your day every time.

It shouldn't have been a sudden stop if the pilot put it in the water under control and seems like should have been a very survivable ditching. I hear that the fuel at Tipton is shut down for testing to see if bad gas is to blame but that could just be routine investigation. I also heard that there was a lot of work going in to this plane lately.

 

[John from MD]

It shouldn't have been a sudden stop if the pilot put it in the water under control and seems like should have been a very survivable ditching. I hear that the fuel at Tipton is shut down for testing to see if bad gas is to blame but that could just be routine investigation. I also heard that there was a lot of work going in to this plane lately.

I guess that is the real question, was it under control.

 

[Doco Overboard]

Employees at the boatyard where I work in Oxford said the engine was cutting in/out when it flew over. Witnesses saw it go down, and the tip of the tail was about 1ft above the water at mid tide. Water depth at the crash site was ~8.5ft, so not particularly deep. Divers recovered the lone occupant about 50 minutes after the crash.

The plane was pretty broke up someone who was there told me. The tail section separated from the fuselage and the front part of that even near the cockpit broke up considerably more. It was described to me as a pretty good sized debris field.

 

[John from MD]

Water is hard. Even a stall at 500 feet will create a debris field that looks like a bomb went off in the airplane. It all depends on the angle of attack and velocity upon striking the water.

 

[Doco Overboard]

Water is hard. Even a stall at 500 feet will create a debris field that looks like a bomb went off in the airplane. It all depends on the angle of attack and velocity upon striking the water.

Est at 100+ is what was communicated by some investigators on site initially.

 

[John from MD]

Est at 100+ is what was communicated by some investigators on site initially.

That would have been around the single engine best rate of climb speed.

 

[Doco Overboard]

This plane that I looked at in the woods, when I was getting to it I was expecting to see where it careened through the trees and have a wake behind it from hitting them.
I was surprised to see where it looked like it had just been dropped straight downwards.
What I found was the plane relatively intact, and just these tree tops that were broke out directly over top of it.
Limbs pierced the fuselage at multiple points and were trapped or pinned beneath it that had come from above.
They were bull pines so the limbs once broken were like spear tips.

 

[Twist]

I’m not multi rated but understand that single engine approaches are a perishable skill.

 

[Bountied]

That's a pretty steep angle and no debris. I wonder if the plane exploded? Did any one see any stingers in the vicinity?

 

[Bountied]

Google small plane crashes in water and none of the pictures have a debris field. All of the planes are intact. What was the make model of plane that crashed in the TA? How do you pronounce Tred Avon? Tred A-von, or Tred Aven? Local Talbot boy here.

 

[outrider58]

That's a pretty steep angle and no debris. I wonder if the plane exploded? Did any one see any stingers in the vicinity?

I haven't really been following, but from the looks of it, it looks like a ditch landing and since the engine is the heaviest part of the plane, it sank nose first in the shallow water.

 

[boatbod]

The plane was pretty broke up someone who was there told me. The tail section separated from the fuselage and the front part of that even near the cockpit broke up considerably more. It was described to me as a pretty good sized debris field.

Personally I'll await the NTSB report before speculating.

I have my own thoughts on the possible causes, but I can definitively say 10 minutes after it went down there was no significant floating debris, or sheen, on the surface of the water. Side-scan sonar showed disturbances on the seabed, but that in itself is hard to draw conclusions from. A photo I just saw of the USCG buoy tender had the recovered plane in tow and it looks quite intact.

 

[boatbod]

How do you pronounce Tred Avon? Tred A-von, or Tred Aven? Local Talbot boy here.

I would pronounce it "Tread A-von", but then I'm a former Brit that grew up in Dorset with the River Avon running through my back yard.

 

[Bountied]

I would pronounce it "Tread A-von", but then I'm a former Brit that grew up in Dorset with the River Avon running through my back yard.

You would be wrong, it's pronounced Tred Aven. If you're ever in Oxford MD check out the TAYC.

 

[Doco Overboard]

Personally I'll await the NTSB report before speculating.

I have my own thoughts on the possible causes, but I can definitively say 10 minutes after it went down there was no significant floating debris, or sheen, on the surface of the water. Side-scan sonar showed disturbances on the seabed, but that in itself is hard to draw conclusions from. A photo I just saw of the USCG buoy tender had the recovered plane in tow and it looks quite intact.

Me personally,I'm just going by what was provided from someone who was there with direct involvement.
Maybe they were excited by what they saw and misreported.
When you have more conclusive info, please do share.

 

[John from MD]

I haven't really been following, but from the looks of it, it looks like a ditch landing and since the engine is the heaviest part of the plane, it sank nose first in the shallow water.

That is not a Cessna 402.

 

[N3uka]

My DC FF brother lives near there and he was on his scanner and claims that the plane out of Ft. Meade or something and spy electronics on it so the Feds running over there.

My friends cousins neighbor said the plane was transporting the Epstein list.

 

[t84a]

That's a pretty steep angle and no debris. I wonder if the plane exploded? Did any one see any stingers in the vicinity?

I'll throw out that my bet is that he died in flight causing the crash. He would have had to lost all controls to end up like that.