- Mar 6, 2021
Here we are in September 2022 and irregardless still isn't a word.
Wow that is not exactly close to advertised battery life, thanks for the update. Makes the Steiner MPS more interesting to me, even with the . . . unique . . . look to it.I'm a closed emitter RDS fan. I like the holosun and aimpoint ACRO closed emitter optics.
That being said I own the P1 and P2. My P2 battery died last week after only 6 months. Medium dot setting.
The P1 would do the same in 3 months.
My story is an example of one, so I wouldn't make a decision solely on what I posted.Wow that is not exactly close to advertised battery life, thanks for the update. Makes the Steiner MPS more interesting to me, even with the . . . unique . . . look to it.
I agree that a single datapoint isn’t a good reason to buy/not buy a product, but am interested to see if there are more reports like yours. Any indication it was a bad battery, or are you thinking your experience will be the norm? I like to give optics a good year or two on the market before I jump on them. I rarely have mystery problems with optics, and would like to keep it that way.My story is an example of one, so I wouldn't make a decision solely on what I posted.
For what it's worth, one of the best RDS Tactics instructors (Scott Jedlinski) recommends changing a RDS battery once every 3-6 month regardless of what the manufacturer claims.
Good to know.I've seen a bunch of Steiner MPS failures on Facebook from people I know... I'd avoid them for a bit until Steiner figures out what's going on there.
That said, if you put enough rounds down range, you will kill optics eventually. I think I'm up to like half a dozen at this point.
Say, are you related to... oh never mind.I've got a red 407c and a green 407k. I was going to toss the eps carry green 2moa on my 43xmos, but absolutely nowhere had one until after october. I like the eps carry in theory because of the enclosed emitter. Enclosed emitters allow for the user to quickly wipe the front and back glass if the gun gets into crud, whereas open emitters are pretty much toast if anything is between the emitter and the glass until you can scoop it out. The drawback is the closed emitters I've looked through have more fisheye distortion and slightly less light transmission because of looking through two sheets of glass instead of one. I'm not sure how this plays out in any real-world setting(mayyyyyybe something to consider if a badguy has night vision???), but the open emitter does throw some light up on you in your waistband at night. I don't know if closed would shield this more, but I noticed it while walking the dog a week or so ago.
As far as the 407 c and 407 K, I went with the 407 instead of the 507 because I was just not interested in the big-ass ring. The acss vulcan caught my eye a bit, but my muscle memory is good enough to immediately pickup the dots when I punch the guns out. I prefer the smaller 2moa dots over the 6moa green 407k dot, but the dot is small enough in practice to be perfectly functional for any defense-type distance. The green one does seem to be easier to see across backgrounds compared to the red dot. I feel like I need to match the brightness to the lighting conditions more with the red dot than I do with the green.
The holosun optics have all done very well with cowan's testing over at sagedynamics and mine feel very solid. They've given me no problems through a couple thousand rounds now. The only thing is that, being open emitters, I've occasionally got to wipe off the inside lens to clear dust and hit the emitter with a q-tip to get dust out from there. I like the side battery trays for both and the ability to set the shake-awake time for the 407c. With the side battery trays, I was able to just toss a new battery in while the gun was still holstered in the harris teeter parking lot. It makes keeping them topped off super easy. I also like the solar-charging on the 407C as an added measure of reliability.
So, if you can find one and need something small, the eps seems awesome. If you're looking for something more for target, then a world of larger windows opens up that don't necessarily need to be enclosed. View attachment 381982 View attachment 381983 View attachment 381984