Odd primer pocket size

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  • BUFF7MM

    ☠Buff➐㎣☠
    Mar 4, 2009
    13,578
    Garrett County
    Found this today when I was prepping some 223/5.56 cases. Colt headstamp and 3 flash holes. I sized and deprimed and it felt like the primer was crimped in so I proceeded to swage the pocket anh that's when I noticed the size difference in the primer pocket. Small on the left measured .170, Colt case measured .189, and the large in the 300 measured .205.
    I just find it odd that a manufacturer would have an oddball size like this, anybody know who makes the Colt head stamped 223 cases? This is the first I've ever ran acrossed one.
     

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    SKIP

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 5, 2009
    3,248
    Glenwood/Glenelg
    I think you have punched the third hole believing Colt was boxer primed. I believe Colt is steel case.
    Also Berdan primers come in about 6 to 8 sizes whereas Boxer primers only come in 2 sizes.
    You are lucky your decapping pin did not break.
     

    smdub

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    Nov 14, 2012
    4,666
    MoCo

    BUFF7MM

    ☠Buff➐㎣☠
    Mar 4, 2009
    13,578
    Garrett County
    I think you have punched the third hole believing Colt was boxer primed. I believe Colt is steel case.
    Also Berdan primers come in about 6 to 8 sizes whereas Boxer primers only come in 2 sizes.
    You are lucky your decapping pin did not break.

    ^this. All the colt I've seen is plated steel, berdan primed, eastern european manufacture. You depriming it may have punched the center hole.

    http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-223-ammo-223rem62grfmjac223acolt-500

    You're probably right, but it must have been a pretty thin web in the case , it took a little more pressure on the handle, but not a bunch more.
     

    byf43

    SCSC Life/NRA Patron Life
    I think you have punched the third hole believing Colt was boxer primed. I believe Colt is steel case.


    Also Berdan primers come in about 6 to 8 sizes whereas Boxer primers only come in 2 sizes.
    You are lucky your decapping pin did not break.



    Holy de-capping pins, Buffman!!!!!!!!!

    That's a smooth move.

    Are you going to get some Berdan primers and load 'em up??????

    I'd love to see/read the accuracy results. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
     

    BUFF7MM

    ☠Buff➐㎣☠
    Mar 4, 2009
    13,578
    Garrett County
    I actually moved this case to my universal decapping die when it seemed a little hard to deprime, but honestly I didn't press that much harder on it to get the spent primer out. Maybe I better go look at that pin, I might have broken or bent it.:o:D
     

    StickShaker

    Active Member
    Mar 3, 2016
    888
    Montgomery
    I saw something that reminded me of this thread. I was looking for some old cases to practice crimping with my new .38 special dies and came across some aluminum Blazer cases that I recently shot. Looking down in the case I saw Berdan primer holes but in the middle there is a thin aluminum strip over the center. I'm wondering if there is a primer hole in the center under that strip? If there is, my punch would go through that strip without much extra force.
     
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    StickShaker

    Active Member
    Mar 3, 2016
    888
    Montgomery
    Being aluminum, I'm not sure if I put the extra hole in the middle but the primer popped out without too much extra force. But if no hole was there, why is there a strip going across the center inside of the case?



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    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    22,310
    You put the hole in the middle. In a Berdan primer case where the hole is now would normally be a projection that serves as an anvil for the firing pin to crush the priming compound against. Take a fired aluminum Blazer case and pry out the spent primer with a sharp punch and you can see the internal structure. This has a good illustration showing a cross section view of the two types of primer pockets:
    http://ammo.com/primer-type/berdan
     

    StickShaker

    Active Member
    Mar 3, 2016
    888
    Montgomery
    You put the hole in the middle. In a Berdan primer case where the hole is now would normally be a projection that serves as an anvil for the firing pin to crush the priming compound against. Take a fired aluminum Blazer case and pry out the spent primer with a sharp punch and you can see the internal structure. This has a good illustration showing a cross section view of the two types of primer pockets:
    http://ammo.com/primer-type/berdan

    Thanks, I'll try prying it out. It's too dark to take a picture inside of the case but I'm really curious about the reason for that metal strip. Maybe I will saw the head off and get a better look at it.
     

    StickShaker

    Active Member
    Mar 3, 2016
    888
    Montgomery
    You put the hole in the middle. In a Berdan primer case where the hole is now would normally be a projection that serves as an anvil for the firing pin to crush the priming compound against. Take a fired aluminum Blazer case and pry out the spent primer with a sharp punch and you can see the internal structure. This has a good illustration showing a cross section view of the two types of primer pockets:
    http://ammo.com/primer-type/berdan

    You are right, I put the hole in the case. The bar at the bottom is part of the case. Maybe extra support for the anvil?



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