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  • Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
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    Jan 30, 2013
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    "Guns on the streets! Guns on the streets! Guns on the streets!"

    What about the other guns -- the overwhelming majority of them?

    Exactly what do they mean by, "Guns on the streets"?

    That loaded term conjures up all sorts of negative images, depending on who is doing the conjuring.

    Do they intend to equate it with "street crime"? Drive by shootings? Drug corner deals gone bad? Gang fights and hits?

    Those "guns on the streets," which really ARE on the streets, and for illegal purposes, are there for bad reasons.

    But they often use that term sweepingly, to include lawfully owned guns by law abiding citizens for defense, sport, or hunting use. Or just to own, as is their right.

    "Guns on the streets" is as misleading and deceptive a term as "assault weapons" used to describe modern sporting rifles.
     

    6-Pack

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    Jan 17, 2013
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    That's a great point. Notice how back in the 1980s/early 1990s many states were "No Issue". Alabama prohibited carrying on property not owned by the gun owner until about 1990, and Texas didn't go "shall issue" until 1995. No doubt, liberal judges will view the No issue/May issue schemes as in line with text, history, and tradition. Now, I know people will say "but but what about the time of our founding or post reconstruction" the issue with that is that liberal judges don't like guns and will continue to rule accordingly.
    I’m sure the same arguments could be made when slavery was abolished: “we had it this way for so long, what do you mean our history doesn’t support it?”

    Depravation of rights is wrong no matter how long it’s been going on. It just so happens NY decided to deny the right to bear arms for about 100 years.

    Remember, interracial marriage wasn’t legal until the 1960s (Loving v. Virginia). Doesn’t mean the denial of interracial couples the right to marry was any better just because it went on for so long.
     

    85MikeTPI

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    Jul 19, 2014
    2,334
    Ceciltucky
    "Guns on the streets! Guns on the streets! Guns on the streets!"

    What about the other guns -- the overwhelming majority of them?

    Exactly what do they mean by, "Guns on the streets"?

    That loaded term conjures up all sorts of negative images, depending on who is doing the conjuring.

    Do they intend to equate it with "street crime"? Drive by shootings? Drug corner deals gone bad? Gang fights and hits?

    Those "guns on the streets," which really ARE on the streets, and for illegal purposes, are there for bad reasons.

    But they often use that term sweepingly, to include lawfully owned guns by law abiding citizens for defense, sport, or hunting use. Or just to own, as is their right.

    "Guns on the streets" is as misleading and deceptive a term as "assault weapons" used to describe modern sporting rifles.

    Well at least there aren't guns on the playground. We were promised that about 8 years ago and I'm still waiting.. Maybe as AG he'll do better..
     

    babalou

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    Aug 12, 2013
    13,471
    Monkey County
    And just like with Wentworth, there is a price tag associated with wanting it now. Us engineers have a saying that for some reason management needs to be reminded of weekly: High quality, fast delivery, low cost; you get to pick 2.

    I want the laws I'm stuck living under to be well crafted, and inexpensive to comply with. I'm willing to wait a few months more to get that.
    I may be an engineer, as well. Or at least I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. Tired of shit going against us taking affect right away but things going for us has to be placed on hold. Feels 1773 all over again.
     
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    babalou

    Active Member
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    Aug 12, 2013
    13,471
    Monkey County
    A certain lawyer on this thread and other threads. smh...
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    DC-W

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    Jan 23, 2013
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    Dan hates anything that’s moderately dangerous that people have. He’s always been for disarmament. He’s also for banning pit-bulls.

     

    BeoBill

    Crank in the Third Row
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    Oct 3, 2013
    24,123
    南馬里蘭州鮑伊
    Dan hates anything that’s moderately dangerous that people have. He’s always been for disarmament. He’s also for banning pit-bulls.

    The Sun Empire is slipping. It took two whole days for them to get their gun grabbing PSYOP started.
     

    TheBert

    The Member
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    Aug 10, 2013
    6,504
    Gaithersburg, Maryland
    And just like with Wentworth, there is a price tag associated with wanting it now. Us engineers have a saying that for some reason management needs to be reminded of weekly: High quality, fast delivery, low cost; you get to pick 2.

    I want the laws I'm stuck living under to be well crafted, and inexpensive to comply with. I'm willing to wait a few months more to get that.

    That is not an appropriate parallel. Your analogy is about building something that doesn't exist. Don't try an argue modify something either.

    The 2A right is not something that has to be built or modified, it just needs to be adhered to by everyone.
     

    TheBert

    The Member
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    Aug 10, 2013
    6,504
    Gaithersburg, Maryland
    Of course, if you are intent at reaching a specific, pre-determined end state from the start, no matter what vehicle is available, you'll probably find a way to get there even if the route is incredibly tortuous. See the District Court decision in Kolbe for a shining example of logic and reality twisted into a pretzel.

    Along the lines of...we'll give the guilty bastard a fair trail and then hang him.
     

    rbird7282

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    Dec 6, 2012
    15,526
    The complete lack of logical thinking in that article is astounding.

    It's like arguing that pharmacies should be closed to reduce the amount of illegal drugs on the street.

    Liberals don’t use logical thinking, they have no idea what it is


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