NYC CCW case is at SCOTUS!

[camo556]

News from the Department of Its not Hard.

 

[Bertfish]

News from the Department of Its not Hard.

That's 3

Hawaii is holding out and obviously Maryland. Anyone else?

 

[camo556]

That's 3

Hawaii is holding out and obviously Maryland. Anyone else?

I am unclear whether its 3 or 2. It is 2 I think, because the original 6 included D.C. which was de facto shall issue.

43 States to 6 States, Says the S. Ct. About Shall-Issue Concealed Carry Rules: What's the Missing State?

Some of you might have had the same reaction that I did to the Court's count of states in N.Y. State...

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Meanwhile, only six States and the District of Columbia have "may issue" licensing laws, under which authorities have discretion to deny concealed-carry licenses even when the applicant satisfies the statutory criteria, usually because the applicant has not demonstrated cause or suitability for the relevant license. Aside from New York, then, only California, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, and New Jersey have analogues to the "proper cause" standard.

So I think that we are down to HI and MD.

Although technically I do not consider NYs new scheme that they passed with 4 references, a social media proctology exam, and demanding the names of everyone living with you shall issue consistent with a constitutional right.

 

[Mr. Anderson]

How do they perform the exam on those who are recluses and don’t have social media?

 

[Lalez]

I think we need to look at NY/MD/NJ trying all of this fuckery as a positive thing…they are playing defense because since about 2004, this country has really expanded gun rights.

Half the country is Constitutional Carry with more states already in line. No Federal AWB and there never will be unless major fuckery is afoot.

These very few Leftist states are on the defensive, this is a good thing

 

[mac1_131]

News from the Department of Its not Hard.

Hello Mr AG, it's as simple as this. Just do it.

 

[Inigoes]

Well, after 90 days, I imagine there will be a metric s-ton of appeals at the Office of Administrative Hearings…..if there are 2,000 cases that have strict timeframes, sounds like they’ll have to ramp up too.

Also, the MGA will have to have some good reasoning as to why they are increasing CCW requirements since the THT standard would fail those requirements.

If Frosh, Hogan, and the MSP keep delaying, I imagine there will be a lot of lawsuits and 1983 actions. Imagine facing the ass end of 2,000 separate 1983 lawsuits at the same time.

The obvious solution to break the logjam would be a circuit court judge declare 5-306 & 4-203 unconstitutional and strike the laws.

4-203 relies of 5-306 to determine criminal penalties.

 

[whistlersmother]

That's 3

Hawaii is holding out and obviously Maryland. Anyone else?

Is HI waiting for the decision in Young? From their perspective, may make sense to wait for the actual case to be re-decided.

Although its clear what they have is unconstitutional.

 

[FrankZ]

How do they perform the exam on those who are recluses and don’t have social media?

What counts as "social media"?

Does MDS count? Just Facebook? It might be subjective.

 

[TheBert]

Are they trying to replace good cause with good moral character?

Arbitrary and capricious.

 

[Apd09]

What counts as "social media"?

Does MDS count? Just Facebook? It might be subjective.

I hope people start making, if they don’t have already, pornhub accounts and providing those so NY needs make employees on work computers go searching pornhub for them and their comments.
I’d go find the most disgusting and insane videos and just leave a comment like “did you enjoy this as much as I did NY cops?”


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[Lalez]

I hope people start making, if they don’t have already, pornhub accounts and providing those so NY needs make employees on work computers go searching pornhub for them and their comments.
I’d go find the most disgusting and insane videos and just leave a comment like “did you enjoy this as much as I did NY cops?”


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Just another sign of how desperate these Leftist loser states are getting.

Gun rights are and have been expanding for about the last 15 years now in 85% of the country

 

[BeoBill]

I hope people start making, if they don’t have already, pornhub accounts and providing those so NY needs make employees on work computers go searching pornhub for them and their comments.
I’d go find the most disgusting and insane videos and just leave a comment like “did you enjoy this as much as I did NY cops?”


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That's evil. I like it.

 

[RoadDawg]

I was just thinking and I hope it does NOT come to this and I am NOT advocating for this.

There’s a doctrine that you have the ability to resist an unlawful arrest. If an officer tries to arrest someone for concealed carry, the “suspect” would be able to resist the arrest lawfully. If the officer escalates to the use of a firearm, I believe it would then be murder of the “suspect.” With the line against the police these days, seems like a road I wouldn’t want to travel down if I was a cop.

Again, not advocating anything and not suggesting anyone do anything. Just thinking out loud.

Dead due to error in judgement on either side is still no less DEAD.

Do NOT place yourself (in the general sense) into the position where there is any question in the matter.

 

[Ecestu]

I hope people start making, if they don’t have already, pornhub accounts and providing those so NY needs make employees on work computers go searching pornhub for them and their comments.
I’d go find the most disgusting and insane videos and just leave a comment like “did you enjoy this as much as I did NY cops?”


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Brilliant.

 

[FrankZ]

Arbitrary and capricious.

It really baffles the mind.

The freight train is bearing down on them and they are sticking their tounge out at it saying "neener neener neener" thinking that will stop it.

 

[Allen65]

It really baffles the mind.

The freight train is bearing down on them and they are sticking their tounge out at it saying "neener neener neener" thinking that will stop it.

Never interfere with your adversary when they are self-destructing. NY's actions, which are contempt both of and for court, may poison the judicial well for the remainder of the holdout states that were hoping to keep some "reasonable" restrictions and permitting standards.

Thomas anticipated some pushback, but I doubt he expected a Governor to say to the TV cameras that she was doubling down on outright defiance of a very specific directive from the Supreme Court to her state. And that may annoy and even scare center-left judges who may have previously entertained ideas of creative interpretations of Bruen in favor of maintaining some state restrictions.

 

[FrankZ]

Never interfere with your adversary when they are self-destructing. NY's actions, which are contempt both of and for court, may poison the judicial well for the remainder of the holdout states that were hoping to keep some "reasonable" restrictions and permitting standards.

Thomas anticipated some pushback, but I doubt he expected a Governor to say to the TV cameras that she was doubling down on outright defiance of a very specific directive from the Supreme Court to her state. And that may annoy and even scare center-left judges who may have previously entertained ideas of creative interpretations of Bruen in favor of maintaining some state restrictions.

It really will be fun when she realizes she is squishier than the freight train a-comin...

 

[Apd09]

It really will be fun when she realizes she is squishier than the freight train a-comin...

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[Kinetic]

It really will be fun when she realizes she is squishier than the freight train a-comin...

I don't know. That botox encrusted mug of hers might crack the pilot on a speeding locomotive.