MSP Got one... Instructor caught cutting corners, permits invalidated.

[Occam]

Cite a case where training was found to be unconstitutional.

 

[Eastwind]

I sure as hell am. I paid for school myself

Silly me


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That makes two of us.

Years of hard work and earning as many scholarships as I could. Not much I can do about it now- except get mad about it on a gun forum!

 

[outrider58]

Your post history says otherwise. You all seem to be helping eachother just fine!

Then why are you here? Like my uncle Forrest used to say, "stupid is as stupid does"

 

[Blacksmith101]

Just like the incessant whining about training, that you have to do anyway, to obtain a permit.

If you’re not going to file a complaint to the courts to contest it, support the poor that can’t afford the training, Then STFU.

Comment all you want, I’m done with it. Cry amongst yourselves. Move around and move on, like I did.

Rather than using your money to help one or a few poor people get a gun the money would be better spent by donating it to a gun rights organization that is actively filing lawsuits to help all the poor and other people get guns by removing the unconstitutional roadblocks.

May I suggest Maryland Shall Issue!

Self Defense is a Civil Right

Maryland Shall Issue® (MSI) is an all-volunteer, non-partisan organization dedicated to the preservation and advancement of gun owners' rights in Maryland. It seeks to educate the community about the right of self-protection, the safe handling of firearms, and the responsibility that goes with...

www.marylandshallissue.org

 

[swinokur]

Oh I see something called Amendment the Second.

Is that what we’re talking about


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[OMD6dawg]

Rather than using your money to help one or a few poor people get a gun the money would be better spent by donating it to a gun rights organization that is actively filing lawsuits to help all the poor and other people get guns by removing the unconstitutional roadblocks.

May I suggest Maryland Shall Issue!

Self Defense is a Civil Right

Maryland Shall Issue® (MSI) is an all-volunteer, non-partisan organization dedicated to the preservation and advancement of gun owners' rights in Maryland. It seeks to educate the community about the right of self-protection, the safe handling of firearms, and the responsibility that goes with...

www.marylandshallissue.org

I’m on the rolls for donations to MSI. Ive always believed in the mission.

 

[Blacksmith101]

But it is written in cursive!

 

[swinokur]

And used two and three syllable words.

So easy a Balt City HS graduate could read it

Oh wait


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[clandestine]

I’m sure I’ve spent the same. Shit, my gun purchases alone during early days of the Great Covid Wars was probably that. Again, I understand. Hate it. I hate it too *thumbs up*

I didn't mention the cost of firearms. That's the COST of getting the permits.

What carry permits do you have right now?

 

[babalou]

FTFY.

No. The requirement to prove that you are legal to vote is not an infringement. It is no different than showing ID to transfer a firearm. The ID establishes a name/face relationship so the powers that be knows the SSN maps to the correct person.

With that said, if the cost or the time required to obtain a photo ID is too cumbersome, then it could be an infringement. If that's the case, then the gov't needs to introduce ways that are easier and cheaper so photo ID is available to everyone of voting age.

FTFY.

No. The requirement to prove that you are legal to vote is not an infringement. It is no different than showing ID to transfer a firearm. The ID establishes a name/face relationship so the powers that be knows the SSN maps to the correct person.

With that said, if the cost or the time required to obtain a photo ID is too cumbersome, then it could be an infringement. If that's the case, then the gov't needs to introduce ways that are easier and cheaper so photo ID is available to everyone of voting

I didn't mention the cost of firearms. That's the COST of getting the permits.

What carry permits do you have right now?

meh, it does not matter, brother. He can afford it. Let them eat cake.

 

[Occam]

I’m on the rolls for donations to MSI. Ive always believed in the mission.

Even though it's an organization dedicated to - using your standards - whining and crying? Why, that organization just never STOPS whining and crying about things like fees, classes, double-layers of permits and other infringements. I'm surprised you're on board with such a bunch of crybabies.

 

[swinokur]

Bazinga!


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[Racinready300ex-2]

So as we argue about the 16 hours thing....I'm hearing they want to bump it up to 32 hours but will likely compromise and only make it 24 hours. Renewal's probably 16?

 

[swinokur]

Where did you hear that? From an Instructor?

Oh good make it like camp.

Sleepover anyone?


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[clandestine]

So as we argue about the 16 hours thing....I'm hearing they want to bump it up to 32 hours but will likely compromise and only make it 24 hours. Renewal's probably 16?

The d-heads who think training should be mandatory will support that too.

Some in the "gun rights community" will proudly turn in instructors to the MSP who only teach a 31.99 Hour Class.

 

[Racinready300ex-2]

Summer camp at the gun range for adults. Sounds like a blast

 

[swinokur]

More opportunity for clueless instructors to hand out bad info

Yay


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[swinokur]

Why not 4 weeks?


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[Racinready300ex-2]

Why not 4 weeks?


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Think how much money you could charge as a instructor. Basically a stimulus bill for Big Firearm Training.

 

[swinokur]

With a pool


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