Your integrity will be appreciated, and not used against you if there is no court record of a prohibitive conviction.So what happens if you put yes to a question and it really is no? Wouldn't that be the same thing? I.e. yes I was charged but nothing comes up in any searches they do is that grounds to deny?
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MSP has access to records that the public can’t see.My brother that applied the same time as I is expecting to get denied now. He has never had anything listed in casesearch. I can confirm this. We just checked for shits and giggles and there is a peace order listed from 2002. Apparently 20 yrs ago he was served a peace order from a girl he dated a few times and he moved on. She called him stating she was preggo months later and asked for money. He obliged. When he asked how she was doing afterwards she stated she had a miscarriage. He asked for his money back and she freaked out. He left it alone. A few days later a peace order came for him. She claimed he choked her and threatened to shoot her with a gun. He was out of town when this was supposed to have happened and he was heading back to TX when the court date was set. He went to court to try to get it postponed due to his travel. They denied it. He asked again and it was denied. He called a lawyer who stated to just let it ride since it would only be a 30 day order and just move on. Apparently this was something she has done to several others.
Well 20 yrs later and it finally shows up. He is not sure why it was never in casesearch.
He answered no to the first question on the app since it was never on his record and he honestly moved on and forgot about it.
My brother is calm and never has a temper. He just walks away. He didn't even own a firearm until about 10 yrs after the peace order. He is freaking out at the moment as he didn't intend to answer incorrectly and is unsure of the consequences.
MSP has access to all law enforcement and court databases in MD, as well as all of the FBI databases.If they said send it in to update it, then what's the issue?
Troopers will ALWAYS say to send in EVERYTHING whether you think it's needed or not. And that's not always the case. If you said you have a picture of what you were wearing, they would say send that in as well. I mean, it can't hurt, right?
They aren't checking any "extra" databases that aren't used for say an HQL/77R applicant. They aren't paying for resources outside the scope of CJIS.
I am of the thought that expungement means it never happened, that's why it gets expunged. Poof, it's gone.
There are others who would give a blood sample if they think it would help.
The having been arrested question to me is if you had an arrest that isn't settled, or something recent that may need attention.
OR catching a blatant lie. Like if you got arrested on the 10 of Sept., and submitted your app on the 20th, but answered no.
I don't think there's anything wrong with answering NO to the arrest if it's one's understand that an expungement means it's all gone and that's accepted procedure. But that's my .02
Request an informal review.ok got my letter and the person they are referencing in this letter is not me ..the letter shows a charge for something in 1987 and i had just turned 13 and in a county i never lived in etc so what do you do if msp makes a mistake
There is a CJIS that retains records for the FBI.that's what causes my confusion.... the nics does not comply with a state expungement, but the cjis did. I was under the impression they were both databases controlled by the FBI... i guess ill know for sure in a few weeks, because its getting close for me to be getting my nics check for the carry permit .
MSP and the Attorney General (Frosh) consider PBJ to be a CONVICTION.PBJ's for violence are not disqualifiers. Why do people keep saying this?