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MSI v. Hogan - The Challenge Against the Handgun Qualification License Proceeds
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Which rights? 2A rights have been consistently violated since 1934, at the federal level.
MSI and other national organizations have been fighting against bad laws for decades.
NYSRPA is a major victory, and it happened just last week. Dismantling the legal apparatus designed to repress your rights and control the peasants takes TIME.
Call the FBI and US Marshals and make that demand. Go ahead- do it.
MSI has been rocking the cart and the boat for decades. Litigation is a long game.
MSI v Hogan is close to the end.
Call v Jones is close to the end.
Whalen v HPRB is close to the end.
One of these cases is likely to conclude with a court order that finally dismantles the MD statutes written in 1972.
That can’t happen until an individual application filed after 6/24 is formally disapproved for lack of G&S.
I personally don’t believe that will ever happen again.
Good! Have you joined and/or donated to MSI, 2AF, GOA?
Have you filed your handgun permit application yet?
Actually the date of the decision is 6/23 not 6/24. I submitted my app 2 hours after the decision was released
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Blacksmith101
Grumpy Old Man
- Jun 22, 2012
- 22,262
Scroll down for shooting the Girardoni and scroll further for the making of reproductions.
RoadDawg
Nos nostraque Deo
- Dec 6, 2010
- 94,371
Nice
Brief of Appellants filed today.
www.marylandshallissue.org
This is a long brief, but it incorporates Bruen
MSI v. Hogan (HQL - 4th Cir) - Brief of Appellants - Download Summary - Maryland Shall Issue®, Inc.
This is a long brief, but it incorporates Bruen
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RoadDawg
Nos nostraque Deo
- Dec 6, 2010
- 94,371
Huck Fogan. All he was good for… was a place holder to keep the socialist out.
I’m moist. Tore Everytown a new ostomy, too.Brief of Appellants filed today.
MSI v. Hogan (HQL - 4th Cir) - Brief of Appellants - Download Summary - Maryland Shall Issue®, Inc.
This is a long brief, but it incorporates Bruen
Good read! Seems like a slam dunk.
platekiller
Ultimate Member
a long brief sounds like an oxymoronBrief of Appellants filed today.
MSI v. Hogan (HQL - 4th Cir) - Brief of Appellants - Download Summary - Maryland Shall Issue®, Inc.
This is a long brief, but it incorporates Bruen
Boondock Saint
Ultimate Member
That was definitely a fun read. Hopefully the circuit court not only applies the law properly, but sees fit to reverse and remand the case so that judgment can be entered faster.
How old is the gun? If you wait long enough for it to become a C&R (50 years from date of manufacture), transfer is HQL-exempt.
Very interesting reading.Brief of Appellants filed today.
MSI v. Hogan (HQL - 4th Cir) - Brief of Appellants - Download Summary - Maryland Shall Issue®, Inc.
This is a long brief, but it incorporates Bruen
United States: "Dear prospective militia candidates, please meet at the corner of Lexington and 5th street on 4 August outfitted with your own guns and you better already know how to use them, we got dirty deeds need done"
Maryland: "After you get your HQL or you'll face the stockades"
British: "We concur with Maryland"
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,137
Actually does Please the Crown 
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- Nov 6, 2015
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I read this in the brief:
"When the Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct. The government must then justify its regulation by demonstrating that it is consistent with the Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation. Only then may a court conclude that the individual’s conduct falls outside the Second Amendment’s unqualified command."
Can someone explain what an unqualified command is? It seems to me, from what I am gathering is, that the command is unassailable or incontestable, but I am trying to understand how the word unqualified conveys that meaning in this context.
I have to say that, in my view, Lawyers are true wordsmiths.
"When the Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct. The government must then justify its regulation by demonstrating that it is consistent with the Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation. Only then may a court conclude that the individual’s conduct falls outside the Second Amendment’s unqualified command."
Can someone explain what an unqualified command is? It seems to me, from what I am gathering is, that the command is unassailable or incontestable, but I am trying to understand how the word unqualified conveys that meaning in this context.
I have to say that, in my view, Lawyers are true wordsmiths.
"Shall not be infringed" is an unqualified command. There's no qualifiers.
"Shall not be infringed, unless the government has a reason to infringe" is a qualifier.
"Shall not be infringed, unless the government has a reason to infringe" is a qualifier.
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Ahhh, okay. I see it now. Thank you.
