Montgomery County Bill 21-22
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Blacksmith101
Grumpy Old Man
- Jun 22, 2012
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Bruen page 30 Footnote 9.
"9 To be clear, nothing in our analysis should be interpreted to suggest
the unconstitutionality of the 43 States’ “shall-issue” licensing regimes,
under which “a general desire for self-defense is sufficient to obtain a
[permit].” Drake v. Filko, 724 F. 3d 426, 442 (CA3 2013) (Hardiman, J.,
dissenting). Because these licensing regimes do not require applicants
to show an atypical need for armed self-defense, they do not necessarily
prevent “law-abiding, responsible citizens” from exercising their Second
Amendment right to public carry. District of Columbia v. Heller, 554
U. S. 570, 635 (2008). Rather, it appears that these shall-issue regimes,
which often require applicants to undergo a background check or pass a
firearms safety course, are designed to ensure only that those bearing
arms in the jurisdiction are, in fact, “law-abiding, responsible citizens.”
Ibid. And they likewise appear to contain only “narrow, objective, and
definite standards” guiding licensing officials, Shuttlesworth v. Birming-
ham, 394 U. S. 147, 151 (1969), rather than requiring the “appraisal of
facts, the exercise of judgment, and the formation of an opinion,” Cant-
well v. Connecticut, 310 U. S. 296, 305 (1940)—features that typify
proper-cause standards like New York’s. That said, because any permit-
ting scheme can be put toward abusive ends, we do not rule out constitu-
tional challenges to shall-issue regimes where, for example, lengthy wait
times in processing license applications or exorbitant fees deny ordinary
citizens their right to public carry."
My added emphasis.
Link to Bruen. Read it, print it out, wallpaoper your gun room with it:
"9 To be clear, nothing in our analysis should be interpreted to suggest
the unconstitutionality of the 43 States’ “shall-issue” licensing regimes,
under which “a general desire for self-defense is sufficient to obtain a
[permit].” Drake v. Filko, 724 F. 3d 426, 442 (CA3 2013) (Hardiman, J.,
dissenting). Because these licensing regimes do not require applicants
to show an atypical need for armed self-defense, they do not necessarily
prevent “law-abiding, responsible citizens” from exercising their Second
Amendment right to public carry. District of Columbia v. Heller, 554
U. S. 570, 635 (2008). Rather, it appears that these shall-issue regimes,
which often require applicants to undergo a background check or pass a
firearms safety course, are designed to ensure only that those bearing
arms in the jurisdiction are, in fact, “law-abiding, responsible citizens.”
Ibid. And they likewise appear to contain only “narrow, objective, and
definite standards” guiding licensing officials, Shuttlesworth v. Birming-
ham, 394 U. S. 147, 151 (1969), rather than requiring the “appraisal of
facts, the exercise of judgment, and the formation of an opinion,” Cant-
well v. Connecticut, 310 U. S. 296, 305 (1940)—features that typify
proper-cause standards like New York’s. That said, because any permit-
ting scheme can be put toward abusive ends, we do not rule out constitu-
tional challenges to shall-issue regimes where, for example, lengthy wait
times in processing license applications or exorbitant fees deny ordinary
citizens their right to public carry."
My added emphasis.
Link to Bruen. Read it, print it out, wallpaoper your gun room with it:
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Raineman
On the 3rd box
I carry in places that serve alcohol now. I do not drink alcohol when I am carrying. I fully intend to continue to do so. (more SB1 applicable)
And without saying too much, MoCo can suck it. (more 21-22 applicable)
While I may not share his enthusiasm...beam me up Scotty
USAF05
Just one more gun...
Indeed
jmcgonig
Active Member
Another week has passed again... had no idea that doing the right thing takes so long!
Sunrise
Ultimate Member
It’s maddening.
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,137
Getting It Right , is sometimes , but not always the same thing as Doing the Right Thing .
- Nov 11, 2009
- 30,903
We need some gpvernment.
We need a government to deal with other nations' governments.
We need government to protect the individual citizen from sociopaths and psychopaths, on both a minor and major scale:
The minor scale would apply to individual and small bands of criminals, who may need to be removed from society for society's sake. In more civilised times, a lot of these were executed, saving the citizens from recidivism, and the treasury from the expense of housing them.
The major scale of protection would be from the sociopaths who control large corporations and the like, whose capability to skew the playing field to the economic disadvantage of the citizenry is constrained by laws against monopolies and other economic engines.
What we lack, and desperately need, is a mechanism to protect us from the sociopaths who run the government for their own advantage, and for the satisfaction of their lust for power. That was part of the purpose for the Second AMendment, but the government has grown and metasticised to the point that the cartridge box is insufficient for the purpose.
We need a government to deal with other nations' governments.
We need government to protect the individual citizen from sociopaths and psychopaths, on both a minor and major scale:
The minor scale would apply to individual and small bands of criminals, who may need to be removed from society for society's sake. In more civilised times, a lot of these were executed, saving the citizens from recidivism, and the treasury from the expense of housing them.
The major scale of protection would be from the sociopaths who control large corporations and the like, whose capability to skew the playing field to the economic disadvantage of the citizenry is constrained by laws against monopolies and other economic engines.
What we lack, and desperately need, is a mechanism to protect us from the sociopaths who run the government for their own advantage, and for the satisfaction of their lust for power. That was part of the purpose for the Second AMendment, but the government has grown and metasticised to the point that the cartridge box is insufficient for the purpose.
He's trying to see how much the dems will pay him... or garner favor for a future posting.
pcfixer
Ultimate Member
Ha. I've heard from 2 brothers who live in Ohio and Kentucky, I need a psych exam.! LOL
Sunrise
Ultimate Member
12 carjackings and a shooting at Wheaton Mall have residents fearful
Residents are criticizing the lack of communication and instruction during an active shooter event and calling for increased safety measures.
moco360.media
Won’t change their vote any.
It will be interesting to see how the block parties in Paris and Amsterdam will turn out...
The voters speak;12 carjackings and a shooting at Wheaton Mall have residents fearful
Residents are criticizing the lack of communication and instruction during an active shooter event and calling for increased safety measures.
Won’t change their vote any.
"She said she’s not aware of any community resources available to help residents know what to do in the event of a public shooting or carjacking incident."
Not enough brochures, that's the problem!
Sunrise
Ultimate Member
So true. The tone-deafness is astounding.The voters speak;
"She said she’s not aware of any community resources available to help residents know what to do in the event of a public shooting or carjacking incident."
Not enough brochures, that's the problem!
I was up at this Costco yesterday. I saw a MoCo Police Car driving around the lot and there was a uniformed officer standing at the entrance to the Costco inside.
We're at the point where people who wanted to defund the police and supported leadership which wanted that now realize that they want police around for safety and can't understand why they aren't around enough.
Sunrise
Ultimate Member
Another Haiku:
Weekend is over.
Justice is delayed again.
Travesty of law.
Sunrise
Ultimate Member
We're approaching the 90 day "required" turnaround for a DC Concealed Carry Permit.
Sunrise
Ultimate Member
Add a couple more days to it for the weekend if we don't hear something on Friday either.
This is a disgrace.
jmcgonig
Active Member
114 days of tyranny...
