Montgomery County Bill 21-22

[Sunrise]

MSI filed a supplemental table of authority yesterday in light of the NJ ruling.

The judge is in a real fix

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/919090464752295978/1069810086970654761/Plaintiffs_Notice_of_Supp_authorities_siegel_as_filed.pdf

Love it. Well done MSI.

Yup, this Judge is definitely in a fix, but it doesn't mean he still won't go through the motions and drag it out for the Party.

 

[Sundazes]

MSI filed a supplemental table of authority yesterday in light of the NJ ruling.

The judge is in a real fix

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/919090464752295978/1069810086970654761/Plaintiffs_Notice_of_Supp_authorities_siegel_as_filed.pdf

 

[Allen65]

I wonder if there's significance to the court's TRO decision date being set to late afternoon of the day before Gun Bill Day in the MGA JPC?

Wouldn't it make it too late for us to then include anything about his decision in our submitted, written testimony? Other than the relation to the JPC hearing, the judge's schedule seems entirely arbitrary.

 

[pcfixer]

Quoted...
The court found that the New Jersey defendants “are, ‘in essence, criminalizing the conduct that the Bruen Court articulated as a core civil right.’” Id. In so holding, the court examined and rejected the same arguments advanced by the County and by the amicus in this case, including rejecting the same historical analogues cited by the County and Everytown here. The court’s analysis is compelling and directly on point.

 

[shootin the breeze]

I really want to see a smack down. Don't get me wrong, we have gotten some good wins but none have had the feeling of epic smack down. That will make me happy if we can get one, here in MD, from MD and not associated with from another state. Big, ass smack down!!

 

[rambling_one]

Getting close to shutting MD down.

S

So judge, crap or get off the pot!

 

[pcfixer]

Jan 30, 2023
PAPERLESS NOTICE that a HEARING on 54 Plaintiffs Emergency Motion for a Temporary Restraining Order and Emergency Motion for a Preliminary Injunction and 57
Defendants Renewed Motion to Remand Counts I, II and III and Stay Counts IV through VIII is scheduled for February 6, 2023 at 3:00 p.m. before Judge Theodore D. Chuang
at the United States Courthouse located at 6500 Cherrywood Lane in Greenbelt, Maryland. The specific courtroom for the motions hearing will be available the week of the proceeding on the Court's website. (ds2s, Deputy Clerk) (Entered: 01/30/2023)


EDIT: Why Not on 7 Feb? LOL

 

[Muff Hucka]

Anyone want to guess whether or not the MoCo bill was a trial balloon encouraged by the MGA to see how far they could take this? Or, if it's something MGA is furious about because any court action taken against the MoCo bill effectively neuters MGA (pretty sure they're neutered in real life) attempts to diminish 2A rights?

 

[pcfixer]

MSI filed a supplemental table of authority yesterday in light of the NJ ruling.

The judge is in a real fix

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/919090464752295978/1069810086970654761/Plaintiffs_Notice_of_Supp_authorities_siegel_as_filed.pdf

MSI filed a supplemental. Also response.

Response – #70 in Maryland Shall Issue, Inc. v. Montgomery County, Maryland (D. Maryland, 8:21-cv-01736) – CourtListener.com

RESPONSE re 66 Response filed by Nancy David, Ronald David, Joshua Edgar, Engage Armament LLC, Everytown for Gun Safety, Brandon Ferrell, I.C.E. Firearms & Defensive Training, LLC, Maryland Shall Issue, Inc., Carlos Rabanales, Andrew Raymond, Eliyahu Shemony, Deryck Weaver. (Attachments: # 1...

www.courtlistener.com

This Response is intended to address the three new arguments raised by the amicus brief. For the reasons set forth below, those arguments lack merit and should be rejected by the Court. The Court should thus enter a TRO and a preliminary injunction because County Bill 21-22E effectively eviscerates the ability of plaintiffs, who have been issued a wear and carry permit by the Maryland State Police, to exercise their fundamental Second Amendment right to carry a firearm in the County, as recognized in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen, 142 S.Ct. 2111 (2022).

It's All a good read. Mark hits home 100%

 

[swinokur]

Hearing Monday at 3

 

[Allen65]

MSI filed a supplemental. Also response.

Response – #70 in Maryland Shall Issue, Inc. v. Montgomery County, Maryland (D. Maryland, 8:21-cv-01736) – CourtListener.com

RESPONSE re 66 Response filed by Nancy David, Ronald David, Joshua Edgar, Engage Armament LLC, Everytown for Gun Safety, Brandon Ferrell, I.C.E. Firearms & Defensive Training, LLC, Maryland Shall Issue, Inc., Carlos Rabanales, Andrew Raymond, Eliyahu Shemony, Deryck Weaver. (Attachments: # 1...

www.courtlistener.com

This Response is intended to address the three new arguments raised by the amicus brief. For the reasons set forth below, those arguments lack merit and should be rejected by the Court. The Court should thus enter a TRO and a preliminary injunction because County Bill 21-22E effectively eviscerates the ability of plaintiffs, who have been issued a wear and carry permit by the Maryland State Police, to exercise their fundamental Second Amendment right to carry a firearm in the County, as recognized in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen, 142 S.Ct. 2111 (2022).

It's All a good read. Mark hits home 100%

I read it; pretty impressive. You'd think by now Everytown would know better than to present Mark P. with an additional attack surface, but they did, and he obliterated their arguments one by one. You'd think billions in Bloombux would could buy better legal and historical research.

 

[swinokur]

Expensive does not equal good

 

[pcfixer]

@swinokur & @Allen65

 

[TexDefender]

Anyone want to guess whether or not the MoCo bill was a trial balloon encouraged by the MGA to see how far they could take this? Or, if it's something MGA is furious about because any court action taken against the MoCo bill effectively neuters MGA (pretty sure they're neutered in real life) attempts to diminish 2A rights?

I wouldn't doubt it, Charles County tried something similar. Boy, did the commissioners quickly learned not to push it.

 

[Sunrise]

MSI filed a supplemental. Also response.

Response – #70 in Maryland Shall Issue, Inc. v. Montgomery County, Maryland (D. Maryland, 8:21-cv-01736) – CourtListener.com

RESPONSE re 66 Response filed by Nancy David, Ronald David, Joshua Edgar, Engage Armament LLC, Everytown for Gun Safety, Brandon Ferrell, I.C.E. Firearms & Defensive Training, LLC, Maryland Shall Issue, Inc., Carlos Rabanales, Andrew Raymond, Eliyahu Shemony, Deryck Weaver. (Attachments: # 1...

www.courtlistener.com

This Response is intended to address the three new arguments raised by the amicus brief. For the reasons set forth below, those arguments lack merit and should be rejected by the Court. The Court should thus enter a TRO and a preliminary injunction because County Bill 21-22E effectively eviscerates the ability of plaintiffs, who have been issued a wear and carry permit by the Maryland State Police, to exercise their fundamental Second Amendment right to carry a firearm in the County, as recognized in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen, 142 S.Ct. 2111 (2022).

It's All a good read. Mark hits home 100%

Very well written!

 

[Sunrise]

Expensive does not equal good

When driven exclusively by ideology and identity, competency is often sacrificed at the altar for some other purpose.

 

[Bob A]

I read it; pretty impressive. You'd think by now Everytown would know better than to present Mark P. with an additional attack surface, but they did, and he obliterated their arguments one by one. You'd think billions in Bloombux would could buy better legal and historical research.

Expensive does not equal good

When driven exclusively by ideology and identity, competency is often sacrificed at the altar for some other purpose.

Acting in desperation does not produce cogency in briefs.

What it achieves is the production of poor arguments, easily refuted; this can only benefit the opponent, who is thus provided with the opportunity to debunk whatever additional rationalisations a panicked litigator might feverishly conjure to save an already failed case.

 

[swinokur]

Pennak ate their lunch

 

[dannyp]

The struggle against evil is eternal.

That is why we remain eternally vigilant.

There is no peace until sweet death visits us.

But until then, let's make it fun!

plus one !

 

[FrankZ]

Pennak ate their lunch

And he'll make them buy the lunch for the privilege.