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  • lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,894
    Would be good advice to not stand near her or her relatives.
    Sounds like either an unfortunate, but fortunately exceedingly rare, victims of a mass shooting at a family reunion. Or perhaps she happens to be related to a lot of people who should have reconsidered their life choices at a much younger age.
     

    Afrikeber

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 14, 2013
    6,940
    Urbana, Md.
    Sounds like either an unfortunate, but fortunately exceedingly rare, victims of a mass shooting at a family reunion. Or perhaps she happens to be related to a lot of people who should have reconsidered their life choices at a much younger age.
    Sad but true.
     

    GTOGUNNER

    IANAL, PATRIOT PICKET!!
    Patriot Picket
    Dec 16, 2010
    5,495
    Carroll County!
    I am unable to see Document 71, However the top of the Docket has the words "LEAD, STAYED"
    Who has an idea what that means??
    msi v montgomery co.JPG
     

    Bertfish

    Throw bread on me
    Mar 13, 2013
    17,921
    White Marsh, MD
    Re: the previous claims that they could arrest plaintiffs for claims they are carrying despite the law

    Doesn't that go against your right to self incriminating? Or am I misunderstanding how that right works? If I call the cops and say "I'm breaking this law" but they don't witness it themselves how can I be arrested?
     

    RFBfromDE

    W&C MD, UT, PA
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 21, 2022
    14,774
    The Land of Pleasant Living
    Re: the previous claims that they could arrest plaintiffs for claims they are carrying despite the law

    Doesn't that go against your right to self incriminating? Or am I misunderstanding how that right works? If I call the cops and say "I'm breaking this law" but they don't witness it themselves how can I be arrested?
    Because you abandon the right to remain silent when you confess.

    Don't do that.
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,237
    Were "ghost guns" / unfinished receivers / PMFs discussed at all yesterday? If this law gets a PI/TRO, would that affect the state law at all?
    This is for the MoCo County law, not any state law, so NO, it would not affect any state law.
     

    dannyp

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 30, 2018
    1,560
    any idea how long this decision will take ? it's been forever already and still nothing ?
     

    Tower43

    USMC - 0311
    Jul 6, 2010
    4,289
    Lusby, MD
    fwiw, I spoke to a MCPD officer, who said it's a "majority of the cops he knows" opinions that this law is ******** and they're not going to enforce it.
     

    Occam

    Not Even ONE Indictment
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 24, 2018
    21,516
    Montgomery County
    fwiw, I spoke to a MCPD officer, who said it's a "majority of the cops he knows" opinions that this law is ******** and they're not going to enforce it.
    The county detective who shared a drink with me a week or so back: he said he hasn’t talked to single officer or detective with the slightest interest in enforcing it, and that they haven’t had any briefing/coaching on it at all.

    He did fret that if an otherwise legal carrier gets caught up in a kerfuffle, that the cops involved won’t be the ones making the call - county prosecutors will use it when and how and against whichever straight middle aged white conservative guy needs a cultural spanking, as it serves their politics.
     

    LuckyShot

    Pissing off Liberals
    Apr 13, 2010
    543
    on 270
    The county detective who shared a drink with me a week or so back: he said he hasn’t talked to single officer or detective with the slightest interest in enforcing it, and that they haven’t had any briefing/coaching on it at all.

    He did fret that if an otherwise legal carrier gets caught up in a kerfuffle, that the cops involved won’t be the ones making the call - county prosecutors will use it when and how and against whichever straight middle aged white conservative guy needs a cultural spanking, as it serves their politics.
    Plenty of violent crimes committed with a firearm in the county since 1/1/23 and none have been charged with such a thing. County repeating in court that they wont be enforcing.
     

    SigNerd

    Active Member
    Feb 24, 2015
    161
    Plenty of violent crimes committed with a firearm in the county since 1/1/23 and none have been charged with such a thing. County repeating in court that they wont be enforcing.
    Well, they've said that we have no proof that they plan to enforce it and haven't so far. But they also refuse to enter into a binding agreement not to enforce until after the case is decided. They won't use it against an actual criminal, they'll wait to jam someone up for otherwise legally defending themselves.
     

    Sage954

    Active Member
    Oct 8, 2019
    318
    Plenty of violent crimes committed with a firearm in the county since 1/1/23 and none have been charged with such a thing. County repeating in court that they wont be enforcing.

    any of those felons legal permit holders? I’m guessing or assuming not. this county is nuts.
     

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