Thomas did show his jar of lube, though…
Montgomery County Bill 21-22
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Lube? Are you sure it wasn't habanero dip? Because if there needs to be a Bruen II, Thomas is gonna make it hurt.
Bruen note 9: “ I double dog dare you.”
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I would not want to see Justice Thomas get chafed. I do want to see him make it hurt.
The counselor for the MGA advises if they can legally pass a bill based on Maryland law. They do not advise on the legality of such laws when it comes to the US Constitution. In reality, the MGA can pass anything they want unless the Maryland Constitution prohibited such law.
jmcgonig
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Freaking 55 days... I assume since its so unimportant to them that a TRO/Injunction is not coming... If that's the case, what's the next step/timelines for a legal newbie?
Sunrise
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The 55 days has been "in total" and it's a disgrace something urgent can go on for this long.
However, MoCo's due by date for its response to MSI's TRO request was 12/31/2022. Then you factor in MSI's due by date of 1/9/2023 for its response to that MoCo filing.
So it's been about two weeks since all the filings were locked in for the Judge's review and opinion.... Two weeks too long IMHO.
The Judge is probably doing pilates for all the contortions he'll be making to side with MoCo.
Blacksmith101
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FIFY
Hes waiting for Elrich to see his shadow for 6 more weeks of 2a infringements.
The longer this goes on, the more optimistic I'm getting. It's clear the court is highly prejudiced to reject any challenge to the law, but the longer it takes for a decision, the less likely it is that the judge, his staff, or the Everytown lawyers whispering in his ear, have been able to find precedent and/or articulate a justification for a denial that would hold up anywhere other than 2CA which apparently doesn't feel a need for justification for infringements.
pcfixer
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Montgomery County Bill 21-22 Page: https://apps.montgomerycountymd.gov/ccllims/BillDetailsPage?RecordId=2761
Marks response quoted. dated 9 Jan 23
Everytown’s Motion for leave to file an amicus brief should be denied.
So as of today 2 weeks ago.
Wow, I'd forgotten about the amicus issue. I guess the judge needs to read Everytown's submission 6 or 7 times and take notes before he can decide that the Court can't accept it.
No. A judge still has to determine that. That is the point of the judicial branch.
The legislature could pass a law saying that YOUR property is confiscated plus you aren't allowed to say anything about it, and PS National Guard troops get to sleep in your home while they are doing it.
Obviously unconstitutional on so many levels. But guess what, they can do that. The AG and MGA legal counsel can tell them "look, this is just so wrong and will get slapped down in a heartbeat". And MGA legislature can still say "I don't care, we don't like Coinboy" and if they have the votes to override the governors veto? It is becoming law. It'll take someone with standing (likely either you, or if so egregious the MD AG, NG commander, governor themself, etc. might attempt to step in) will have to file suit for a judge to rule that it is patently unconstitutional.
pcfixer
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Case 8:21-cv-01736-TDC Document 64 Filed 01/10/23
REPLY OF EVERYTOWN FOR GUN SAFETY TO PLAINTIFFS’ OPPOSITION TO MOTION FOR LEAVE TO FILE AMICUS BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT
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). Indeed, Plaintiffs have it exactly backwards.
Respectfully submitted, /s/ Barry J. Pollack Barry J. Pollack
Between county Lawyers and this guy... They have No Respect. Called Plaintiffs (Mark) everything but blatant liar.
Go get em Mark. @esqappellate
MSI brief... https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/documents?task=download.send&id=416&catid=4&m=0
"The County’s and Everytown tag-team tactics thus turns briefing into a true “Catch 22” for plaintiffs. The only proper response for this Court is to put a stop to the County’s and Everytown’s abuse of the amicus process and deny Everytown’s motion for leave to file an amicus brief and hold that the County has Case 8:21-cv-01736-TDC Document 63 Filed 01/09/23 Page 5 of 6 6 conceded the issues which it deliberately decided not to brief as part of this improper scheme to divide arguments with its amicus. The Court may also wish to consider, sua sponte, sanctions for this conduct."
REPLY OF EVERYTOWN FOR GUN SAFETY TO PLAINTIFFS’ OPPOSITION TO MOTION FOR LEAVE TO FILE AMICUS BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT
Reply to Response to Motion – #64 in Maryland Shall Issue, Inc. v. Montgomery County, Maryland (D. Maryland, 8:21-cv-01736) – CourtListener.com
REPLY to Response to Motion re 60 MOTION for Leave to File Amicus Brief In Support Of Defendant's Opposition to Plaintiffs' Motion for Temporary Restraining Order and Preliminary Injunction filed by Everytown for Gun Safety. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A - Correspondence)(Pollack, Barry) (Entered...
). Indeed, Plaintiffs have it exactly backwards.
Respectfully submitted, /s/ Barry J. Pollack Barry J. Pollack
Between county Lawyers and this guy... They have No Respect. Called Plaintiffs (Mark) everything but blatant liar.
Go get em Mark. @esqappellate
MSI brief... https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/documents?task=download.send&id=416&catid=4&m=0
"The County’s and Everytown tag-team tactics thus turns briefing into a true “Catch 22” for plaintiffs. The only proper response for this Court is to put a stop to the County’s and Everytown’s abuse of the amicus process and deny Everytown’s motion for leave to file an amicus brief and hold that the County has Case 8:21-cv-01736-TDC Document 63 Filed 01/09/23 Page 5 of 6 6 conceded the issues which it deliberately decided not to brief as part of this improper scheme to divide arguments with its amicus. The Court may also wish to consider, sua sponte, sanctions for this conduct."
pcfixer
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Maryland Shall Issue, Inc. v. Montgomery County, Maryland (8:21-cv-01736)
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Last Updated: Jan. 24, 2023, 5:15 a.m. EST
Assigned To: Theodore David Chuang
Date Filed: July 12, 2021
Date of Last Known Filing: Jan. 10, 2023
Cause: 28:1441 Notice of Removal
Nature of Suit: 440 Civil Rights: Other
Jury Demand: Plaintiff
Jurisdiction Type: Federal Question
So the case is moving to Federal court?
Sunrise
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Didn't see anything on MSI Twitter/Website about that... AFAIK, we're still waiting on this Judge to make a ruling on the TRO now that all the briefs are in.
Sunrise
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Sanctions are most definitely warranted. The County and Everytown had a wink-wink, nod-nod coordination here. I doubt this Judge has the guts to sanction them though.Case 8:21-cv-01736-TDC Document 64 Filed 01/10/23
REPLY OF EVERYTOWN FOR GUN SAFETY TO PLAINTIFFS’ OPPOSITION TO MOTION FOR LEAVE TO FILE AMICUS BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT
Reply to Response to Motion – #64 in Maryland Shall Issue, Inc. v. Montgomery County, Maryland (D. Maryland, 8:21-cv-01736) – CourtListener.com
REPLY to Response to Motion re 60 MOTION for Leave to File Amicus Brief In Support Of Defendant's Opposition to Plaintiffs' Motion for Temporary Restraining Order and Preliminary Injunction filed by Everytown for Gun Safety. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A - Correspondence)(Pollack, Barry) (Entered...
). Indeed, Plaintiffs have it exactly backwards.
Respectfully submitted, /s/ Barry J. Pollack Barry J. Pollack
Between county Lawyers and this guy... They have No Respect. Called Plaintiffs (Mark) everything but blatant liar.
Go get em Mark. @esqappellate
MSI brief... https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/documents?task=download.send&id=416&catid=4&m=0
"The County’s and Everytown tag-team tactics thus turns briefing into a true “Catch 22” for plaintiffs. The only proper response for this Court is to put a stop to the County’s and Everytown’s abuse of the amicus process and deny Everytown’s motion for leave to file an amicus brief and hold that the County has Case 8:21-cv-01736-TDC Document 63 Filed 01/09/23 Page 5 of 6 6 conceded the issues which it deliberately decided not to brief as part of this improper scheme to divide arguments with its amicus. The Court may also wish to consider, sua sponte, sanctions for this conduct."
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