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  • csanc123

    Active Member
    Aug 26, 2009
    3,688
    Montgomery County
    Public hearing was almost 8 weeks ago; the staff report on the public testimony is not yet available.
    Don't think for a second that they are not working behind the scenes to help push anything 'local' to coincide with what will be a very active anti 2A session in Annapolis.

    I'll bet my buttocks they are watching NY and the travesty that they pushed through at state level (which has yet to be pounded out of existence...I'm waiting and hoping for that ass whipping by the courts)
     

    Afrikeber

    Active Member
    Jan 14, 2013
    4,146
    Urbana, Md.
    Don't think for a second that they are not working behind the scenes to help push anything 'local' to coincide with what will be a very active anti 2A session in Annapolis.

    I'll bet my buttocks they are watching NY and the travesty that they pushed through at state level (which has yet to be pounded out of existence...I'm waiting and hoping for that ass whipping by the courts)
    Yea me too but at my age I’d like to see it before I die.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    53,798
    Not in Montgomery any longer
    The good thing is NY will get slapped down, making MD and Mo Co think before doing the same thing. But they are arrogant enough to do it again, no matter the expense to the taxpayers


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    teratos

    My hair is amazing
    MDS Supporter
    Patriot Picket
    Jan 22, 2009
    52,940
    Bel Air
    The good thing is NY will get slapped down, making MD and Mo Co think before doing the same thing. But they are arrogant enough to do it again, no matter the expense to the taxpayers
    No skin off their back and no money out of their pocket. They will try to suppress our rights using our money.
     

    pcfixer

    Active Member
    May 24, 2009
    5,492
    Marylandstan
    Well done as always.
    Thank you for your effort in the fight.
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    Really the most spaced out person i've read about. Same as the Mom's Demand Action people.
    “Bill 21-22 will protect Montgomery County residents from armed threats to our citizens and places where they work, play and socialize,” said Mindy Landau of Brady United Against Gun Violence. “Our children should not have to fear that someone with a gun will invade their safe space for learning and playing.”

    They really don't understand the word FEAR.
     

    MULE-JK

    Stiff Member
    Sep 7, 2013
    933
    Mt. Airy
    So if I read it right, 57-11 does not apply if you have an HGP. Is that correct.

    I am more concerned with 57-10 Keeping guns on person or in vehicles. 57-10 does not exclude permit holders. Does the "Lawful Mission" clause allow for wear and carry in 57-10?
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    53,798
    Not in Montgomery any longer
    IANAL but I don’t think it does. MSI is challenging Mo Co authority to ban rifle carry under preemption 4-209

    They are trying to say permit holders are not exempt from this proposed law

    They are going to lose and they know it


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    scottyfz6

    Member
    Dec 22, 2018
    742
    Someone lawyerly needs to send an official letter to the county board that under bruen carry out side the home is legal under the constitution, carry with a permit in maryland is legal per bruen. Restricting the rights to carry with in 100 yards is against bruen, and they are doing it under the color of law and they open themselves to claims under section 1983. Then have a list of people with permits who travel with in 100 yards of any of the things they want to restrict ready. Heck have the complaint all filled out and ready to drop off at the courts.

    I mean literally have a stack of a hundred or more lawsuits naming the people who have been harmed naming the people who would vote for the bill. Inform them that they pass the bill they will all have hundreds of lawsuits against them with in the hour. And that they cant hide behind the job for 1983 claims.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    53,798
    Not in Montgomery any longer
    MSI has testified against this bill already and has all but told the County if they pass this they will be sued and lose.

    Are you a member of MSI?


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    eruby

    Confederate Jew
    MDS Supporter
    OK, I'm new to the group and MD Politician's mindset. What is an 'undetectable' gun? Will there be cops on every street corner doing searches to verify you do not posess a firearm?
    Welcome aboard and thank you for posting an intro

    Except for Die Hard 2, and the porcelain Glock 7, there is no such thing as an undetectable gun (John Malkovich weeps)

    My suggestion is ignore this bullshty, have a large glass of Lagavulin 16, and BOLO the next MDS meetup.


    Samanambatches, I just replied to a guy absent since July 31
     

    scottyfz6

    Member
    Dec 22, 2018
    742
    MSI has testified against this bill already and has all but told the County if they pass this they will be sued and lose.

    Are you a member of MSI?


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    yes I am and have donated several hundred extra this year to them beyond the membership.

    I dont mean sue the county to stop the bill, I mean sue the board members under 1983 claims, screw just trying to stop the law. 1983 claims go after the person restricting rights personally, with jail time and fines that they personally have to pay. Make them have some skin in the game.

    My drive to my office takes me with in 100 yards of 7 churches.
     

    MULE-JK

    Stiff Member
    Sep 7, 2013
    933
    Mt. Airy
    IANAL but I don’t think it does. MSI is challenging Mo Co authority to ban rifle carry under preemption 4-209

    They are trying to say permit holders are not exempt from this proposed law

    They are going to lose and they know it


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    OK, so this is a proposed bill to remove the exemption for permit holders in 57-11, got it. It has not been voted on or passed.
     

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