Massad Ayoob and the ACLDN

[ezracer]

I currently have Carry "Insurance" (so to speak) with "CCW Safe". Massad Ayoob is a proponent of (ACLDN)
Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network. What say you re: ACLDN?

Massood Ayoob on ACLDN youtube - Google Search

 

[swinokur]

Mas endorses whoever pays him

 

[CZ Peasy]

I've had ACLDN for several years. Seems okay to me. They provide educational materials and a monthly newsletter.

 

[John from MD]

Mas endorses whoever pays him

Always has.

 

[jrumann59]

Mas endorses whoever pays him

Isn't that how endorsements work. Company comes to sell you on their product, and then says are you willing to endorse it for X dollars. I expect almost 90% of the endorsements out there the people endorsing it A) don't use the product, B) don't like the product or C) gives 2 shitz about the product but "hey you are going to pay me how much?"

 

[pbharvey]

ACLDN is not carry insurance

What We are Not​

First off, we are NOT insurance! There is no insurance component in our member benefits. Nor are we a pre-paid legal service plan. We do not have any attorneys on staff or under contract to assign to handle your case. You see, we insist that each member retain complete control of his or her legal defense, including hiring and, if necessary, even firing their attorney. We are the funding mechanism for the legal defense and that is the extent of our involvement into ongoing member cases. We do have affiliated attorneys in each state that are willing to go to bat for our members–a facet of the Network we developed to help members meet and work with gun-friendly attorneys–but the member chooses whom they hire as their attorney and is not limited to our affiliates.

 

[6-Pack]

Isn't that how endorsements work. Company comes to sell you on their product, and then says are you willing to endorse it for X dollars. I expect almost 90% of the endorsements out there the people endorsing it A) don't use the product, B) don't like the product or C) gives 2 shitz about the product but "hey you are going to pay me how much?"

Only endorsement I’ve seen that I don’t think was paid was Hickok45 saying he has Armed Citizen’s Legal Defense Network insurance too.

Make your own decision based on your own research. For me, CCW Safe has at least one documented incident where they successfully defended a first degree murder case. Stephen Maddox (https://www.concealedcarry.com/law/concealed-carry-charged-with-first-degree-murder/).

It’s important to understand that charges not being pressed (which I believe wouldn’t be uncommon in self defense shootings) is not the same level of effort as successfully defending a murder 1 trial. If the other “insurance” providers out there provide documented cases I’d be open to switching, but I’ll stick to what can be proven above what someone endorses.

 

[hodgepodge]

Look at several. Read some reviews. Make sure they cover states in which you'd carry.
Then look at the price.

 

[swinokur]

Isn't that how endorsements work. Company comes to sell you on their product, and then says are you willing to endorse it for X dollars. I expect almost 90% of the endorsements out there the people endorsing it A) don't use the product, B) don't like the product or C) gives 2 shitz about the product but "hey you are going to pay me how much?"

Which is why endorsements are useless as an indicators of a products quality of usefulness

Mas would endorse Ford Pintos if you paid him to

Capitalism works

 

[Jim12]

Endorsements at a minimum help with brand awareness.

Wouldn't have even been posted here without his, so it already worked.

 

[joppaj]

Which is why endorsements are useless as an indicators of a products quality of usefulness

Mas would endorse Ford Pintos if you paid him to

Capitalism works

Agreed. I'm waiting for him to work something out with Mike Lindell.

"A well armed man needs a good night's sleep. That's why I sleep on a My Pillow Deluxe model!"

 

[FrankZ]

Agreed. I'm waiting for him to work something out with Mike Lindell.

"A well armed man needs a good night's sleep. That's why I sleep on a My Pillow Deluxe model!"

Or MyHolster

 

[kenpo333]

I've been around Mas quite a bit. I've taken mag 20, Mag 40, and his deadly force instructors classe. I've also shot on the same squad at several IDPA events. Don't see the same as some do. If you need an expert witness or consultant then I want him on my team. If joining Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network gets you to him than that is not a bad thing.

 

[John from MD]

I've been around Mas quite a bit. I've taken mag 20, Mag 40, and his deadly force instructors classe. I've also shot on the same squad at several IDPA events. Don't see the same as some do. If you need an expert witness or consultant then I want him on my team. If joining Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network gets you to him than that is not a bad thing.

Did he quit smoking yet?

 

[swinokur]

No one questions his knowledge or skill. Endorsements are worth exactly what he was paid for them

 

[Blaster229]

I've been around Mas quite a bit. I've taken mag 20, Mag 40, and his deadly force instructors classe. I've also shot on the same squad at several IDPA events. Don't see the same as some do. If you need an expert witness or consultant then I want him on my team. If joining Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network gets you to him than that is not a bad thing.

Does he have a 24/7 number you can call at 3 a.m. with your shooting situation and he will have a crisis team react for you?
That's a negative ghost rider.
He WILL however take that ACLDN money you get and be your expert witness. But most don't need an expert witness.

 

[teratos]

Does he have a 24/7 number you can call at 3 a.m. with your shooting situation and he will have a crisis team react for you?
That's a negative ghost rider.
He WILL however take that ACLDN money you get and be your expert witness. But most don't need an expert witness.

You ask if I have a god complex? I am god…

 

[swinokur]

AKA The fickle finger of fate

 

[teratos]

AKA The fickle finger of fate

I thought that was my finger?