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  • jrumann59

    DILLIGAF
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    Feb 17, 2011
    13,104
    Mas endorses whoever pays him
    Isn't that how endorsements work. Company comes to sell you on their product, and then says are you willing to endorse it for X dollars. I expect almost 90% of the endorsements out there the people endorsing it A) don't use the product, B) don't like the product or C) gives 2 shitz about the product but "hey you are going to pay me how much?"
     

    pbharvey

    Habitual Testifier
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    Dec 27, 2012
    28,065
    ACLDN is not carry insurance

    What We are Not​

    First off, we are NOT insurance! There is no insurance component in our member benefits. Nor are we a pre-paid legal service plan. We do not have any attorneys on staff or under contract to assign to handle your case. You see, we insist that each member retain complete control of his or her legal defense, including hiring and, if necessary, even firing their attorney. We are the funding mechanism for the legal defense and that is the extent of our involvement into ongoing member cases. We do have affiliated attorneys in each state that are willing to go to bat for our members–a facet of the Network we developed to help members meet and work with gun-friendly attorneys–but the member chooses whom they hire as their attorney and is not limited to our affiliates.
     

    6-Pack

    NRA Life Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 17, 2013
    4,794
    ☭ Maryland ☭
    Isn't that how endorsements work. Company comes to sell you on their product, and then says are you willing to endorse it for X dollars. I expect almost 90% of the endorsements out there the people endorsing it A) don't use the product, B) don't like the product or C) gives 2 shitz about the product but "hey you are going to pay me how much?"
    Only endorsement I’ve seen that I don’t think was paid was Hickok45 saying he has Armed Citizen’s Legal Defense Network insurance too.

    Make your own decision based on your own research. For me, CCW Safe has at least one documented incident where they successfully defended a first degree murder case. Stephen Maddox (https://www.concealedcarry.com/law/concealed-carry-charged-with-first-degree-murder/).

    It’s important to understand that charges not being pressed (which I believe wouldn’t be uncommon in self defense shootings) is not the same level of effort as successfully defending a murder 1 trial. If the other “insurance” providers out there provide documented cases I’d be open to switching, but I’ll stick to what can be proven above what someone endorses.
     
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    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    52,949
    Not in Montgomery any longer
    Isn't that how endorsements work. Company comes to sell you on their product, and then says are you willing to endorse it for X dollars. I expect almost 90% of the endorsements out there the people endorsing it A) don't use the product, B) don't like the product or C) gives 2 shitz about the product but "hey you are going to pay me how much?"
    Which is why endorsements are useless as an indicators of a products quality of usefulness

    Mas would endorse Ford Pintos if you paid him to

    Capitalism works
     

    Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 30, 2013
    31,112
    Endorsements at a minimum help with brand awareness.

    Wouldn't have even been posted here without his, so it already worked.
     

    joppaj

    Sheepdog
    Staff member
    Moderator
    Apr 11, 2008
    41,203
    MD
    Which is why endorsements are useless as an indicators of a products quality of usefulness

    Mas would endorse Ford Pintos if you paid him to

    Capitalism works
    Agreed. I'm waiting for him to work something out with Mike Lindell.

    "A well armed man needs a good night's sleep. That's why I sleep on a My Pillow Deluxe model!"
     

    kenpo333

    Active Member
    Industry Partner
    MDS Supporter
    Mar 18, 2012
    3,270
    Salisbury Maryland
    I've been around Mas quite a bit. I've taken mag 20, Mag 40, and his deadly force instructors classe. I've also shot on the same squad at several IDPA events. Don't see the same as some do. If you need an expert witness or consultant then I want him on my team. If joining Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network gets you to him than that is not a bad thing.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    17,830
    Socialist State of Maryland
    I've been around Mas quite a bit. I've taken mag 20, Mag 40, and his deadly force instructors classe. I've also shot on the same squad at several IDPA events. Don't see the same as some do. If you need an expert witness or consultant then I want him on my team. If joining Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network gets you to him than that is not a bad thing.
    Did he quit smoking yet?
     

    Blaster229

    God loves you, I don't.
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 14, 2010
    40,283
    Glen Burnie
    I've been around Mas quite a bit. I've taken mag 20, Mag 40, and his deadly force instructors classe. I've also shot on the same squad at several IDPA events. Don't see the same as some do. If you need an expert witness or consultant then I want him on my team. If joining Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network gets you to him than that is not a bad thing.
    Does he have a 24/7 number you can call at 3 a.m. with your shooting situation and he will have a crisis team react for you?
    That's a negative ghost rider.
    He WILL however take that ACLDN money you get and be your expert witness. But most don't need an expert witness.
     

    teratos

    My hair is amazing
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 22, 2009
    51,627
    Bel Air
    Does he have a 24/7 number you can call at 3 a.m. with your shooting situation and he will have a crisis team react for you?
    That's a negative ghost rider.
    He WILL however take that ACLDN money you get and be your expert witness. But most don't need an expert witness.
    You ask if I have a god complex? I am god…
     

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