So before I thought my M57 was .312 bore diameter (32). I just want to check. I think my morning google fu is failing me. I am just having some second thoughts loading up 32 FMJs. Last range trip I loaded up some .313 diameter coated lead in both 78 and 100gr and they worked great. Accuracy was much improved and closer to point of aim, vs commerical Tok ammo that is generally a pie plate low at 12yds. I am doubtlessly over thinking it, pretty sure I don't want my M57 to go boom with the harder jacketing on an FMJ if I am wrong (but would it even go boom if I was off?).
Anyway, I just slugged the bore again using copper plated berry's 71gr .313 diameter bullets that are pretty soft, as well as 100gr .313 coated lead. I do have some mild concerns as it seems the Berrys tore petals off the bullet engaging the lands then again soft lead with a copper plate. Not sure if that is normal (I shoved it from crown to chamber with the bullet reversed, so that might have contributed to it).
Anyway, I am seeing about .302" diameter at the lands and about .313 diameter at the grooves. That feels like a 32 to me and not a .308. I also rammed a .309 coated bullet (Xtreme 110gr for a M1 carbine) and an FMJ 147gr down the bore. The Carbine bullet came out also at basically .302" at the lands and .313" at the grooves (went in at .309). The 147gr .308 came out at .302 at the lands but only around .309 at the grooves. I am guessing the hard jacket there kept it from swaging out to the diameter of the grooves from the force of pushing it in to the lands. From what I can find is a .308 should be .308 at the grooves and .300 at the lands. And a few precision barrel makers, make them at .306 at the lands and .298 at the grooves.
Thoughts? Seems like a "32" barrel. Seems like yes, I should properly be using .312/.313 bullets in it. Also, even if it really was a .308 barrel, swagging the bullet 4 thousandths of an inch as it travels into the barrel isn't going to do anything worse than increase the pressure a bit, not something that is scary bad (but also, seems to be a 32 barrel)
This feels like a 32 barrel (well, really a .313 groove diameter). And it feels like it is safe to shoot .312" FMJ and .313" coated/plated lead down it. From what I can find on 32s, they run a VERY wide gamut as small as .307 up to .315".
Also, I am thinking and wondering if that is why I am seeing the accuracy gains I have with reloading. If this is a .313 groove diameter, and a .308 diameter bullet is going in, it is getting engagement since the lands are .302, but it isn't engaging nearly as well with an FMJ, as it isn't fully obturating the bore and the bullet is staying at .308 at the lands, allowing some gas blow by and maybe not stabilizing the bullet as well. Possibly also de-stabilizing some if the bullet is flying a lot of blow-by? No idea about that later if that would impact anything. I did see with loading 110gr .309s before I had better accuracy, and slugging with one looks like it swages from the lands to fully occupy the grooves (well, more or less) pretty much obturating the bore, or at least obturating it better. Aiding accuracy/stability? And lastly on the .313" diameter coated lead I've shot, I am assuming there, its full obturating the bore and actually swaging down at the lands and elongating the bullet that fraction of an inch (the lead has to go somewhere that is being displaced by the lands).
I appreciate any feedback anyone can give. My confidence level is actually pretty high that I am "doing things right". But things going boom close to my hand makes me nervous...
Anyway, I just slugged the bore again using copper plated berry's 71gr .313 diameter bullets that are pretty soft, as well as 100gr .313 coated lead. I do have some mild concerns as it seems the Berrys tore petals off the bullet engaging the lands then again soft lead with a copper plate. Not sure if that is normal (I shoved it from crown to chamber with the bullet reversed, so that might have contributed to it).
Anyway, I am seeing about .302" diameter at the lands and about .313 diameter at the grooves. That feels like a 32 to me and not a .308. I also rammed a .309 coated bullet (Xtreme 110gr for a M1 carbine) and an FMJ 147gr down the bore. The Carbine bullet came out also at basically .302" at the lands and .313" at the grooves (went in at .309). The 147gr .308 came out at .302 at the lands but only around .309 at the grooves. I am guessing the hard jacket there kept it from swaging out to the diameter of the grooves from the force of pushing it in to the lands. From what I can find is a .308 should be .308 at the grooves and .300 at the lands. And a few precision barrel makers, make them at .306 at the lands and .298 at the grooves.
Thoughts? Seems like a "32" barrel. Seems like yes, I should properly be using .312/.313 bullets in it. Also, even if it really was a .308 barrel, swagging the bullet 4 thousandths of an inch as it travels into the barrel isn't going to do anything worse than increase the pressure a bit, not something that is scary bad (but also, seems to be a 32 barrel)
This feels like a 32 barrel (well, really a .313 groove diameter). And it feels like it is safe to shoot .312" FMJ and .313" coated/plated lead down it. From what I can find on 32s, they run a VERY wide gamut as small as .307 up to .315".
Also, I am thinking and wondering if that is why I am seeing the accuracy gains I have with reloading. If this is a .313 groove diameter, and a .308 diameter bullet is going in, it is getting engagement since the lands are .302, but it isn't engaging nearly as well with an FMJ, as it isn't fully obturating the bore and the bullet is staying at .308 at the lands, allowing some gas blow by and maybe not stabilizing the bullet as well. Possibly also de-stabilizing some if the bullet is flying a lot of blow-by? No idea about that later if that would impact anything. I did see with loading 110gr .309s before I had better accuracy, and slugging with one looks like it swages from the lands to fully occupy the grooves (well, more or less) pretty much obturating the bore, or at least obturating it better. Aiding accuracy/stability? And lastly on the .313" diameter coated lead I've shot, I am assuming there, its full obturating the bore and actually swaging down at the lands and elongating the bullet that fraction of an inch (the lead has to go somewhere that is being displaced by the lands).
I appreciate any feedback anyone can give. My confidence level is actually pretty high that I am "doing things right". But things going boom close to my hand makes me nervous...