Looks like lpks are coming down in price...

[AliasNeo07]

...a little. Lots of RRA on gunbroker at like $120. They were all over $150 a few weeks ago.

Secondary question...why are spikes (standard not enhanced), and Stag LPKs going for so much more than RRA and CMMG?

Thought they were all pretty much the same.

What's the standard?

 

[Dan44]

I think some people like to keep the same brand in their lowers. Lots of Spike lowers.

 

[jimbobborg]

I like the finish and the designs on the Spike's more than the others. I got a spider and Punisher skull on two of mine.

 

[md123]

I have 3 stripped lowers coming from engage and bought psa lkp (less fcg) so i get grandfathered with two evil features (scary telescoping stock and perilous pistol grip). Then i plan on buying all the rest over time as prices come down. I need to learn more about triggers...

 

[phx223]

Because you can backorder from RRA or CMMG and get your LPK in a week or two. If you want an LPK RRA is 83 dollars shipped (70 for the LPK and a stupid high, and unannounced, shipping cost of 13 bucks).

 

[md123]

BTW. Hat-tip to you, PHX223. You were way ahead of the curve on the topic of CYA vis-a-vi grandfathering.

Do you think I'm good w/o FCG? Two feature test, as of the date of this post and the trigger itself isn't evil or too scary.

 

[sailskidrive]

Looks like lpks are coming down in price...

Yeah... now that nearly every household in the state has an AR. Except of course Montgomery County and the homes of a dozen or so Marxist State Delegates.

 

[md123]

Yeah... now that nearly every household in the state has an AR. Except of course Montgomery County and the homes of a dozen or so Marxist State Delegates.

And hopefully the national panic will slow down. National AWB/Mag limits are DOA. Even Diane Frankenfeinstein knows that.

 

[AliasNeo07]

Didn't know you could backorder from RRA.

Are all the kits pretty much the same? I dont care about pistol grip or trigger as ill be using a bravo company grip and spikes enhanced trigger. Just want to make sure I get a kit with in spec parts/pins/springs. Ive only done one other build and it was a stag kit but I cant find those.

Which are the standard? Any to stay away from?

 

[phx223]

BTW. Hat-tip to you, PHX223. You were way ahead of the curve on the topic of CYA vis-a-vi grandfathering.

Do you think I'm good w/o FCG? Two feature test, as of the date of this post and the trigger itself isn't evil or too scary.

From how I see it you should be gtg with the tele-stock and A2 grip , since MD considers the lower to be the evil part. But others on here think that just having the lower is enough, and I can't say that they are wrong, however I prefer to error on the side of not going to federalrapeyouinthebuttprision.

Didn't know you could backorder from RRA.

Are all the kits pretty much the same? I dont care about pistol grip or trigger as ill be using a bravo company grip and spikes enhanced trigger. Just want to make sure I get a kit with in spec parts/pins/springs. Ive only done one other build and it was a stag kit but I cant find those.

Which are the standard? Any to stay away from?

For the most part kits are thought of as the same. Guys that have built a lot more lowers then I have say a lpk is an lpk is an lpk. I have to assume that they are using lpk's from known vendors as some lpk's have trickeled in from China and Tiawan. These guys also have the ability to install a slightly out of spec lpk, have extra parts incase there is an issue and have the proper tools to install the parts.

When doing my research for my first build I found that the ranking generally went:
Colt
LMT/Grant Pieced together
DD
Stag/CMMG/DPMS/Spikes/PSA/RRA
Delton/DoubleStar
Stainless Crap/noname

And how did I come to that ranking, Colt/LMT/DD have big names to protect.
Stag/CMMG/DPMS/Spikes/PSA/RRA make a lot of LPK's, they are bound to have it down

Everyone else, eh. Although I do hear that Armalites bolt catch is the bee's knees.

Again, I'm no smith. Just a bored engineer that over thinks things and lives in the margins.

If it is one of your first builds I'd go with RRA, their pins are known for going in easy and I think they have an option that comes w/o FCG.

Getting a PSA kit would be a decent option too (I have one of those waiting for me out west, 2 more weeks until I can help my pop's build a lower, I'm still debating installing a Giessele 3.5 lbs trigger on his .22 build, but I'm not sure I'd get it back if I did).

As to a standard, that would be Colt. You can piece together an LPK from them, san FCG and Safety for 90 dollars, but thats alot to pay for some springs and pins. I do think that any of the midrange kits will do you just fine.

Stay away from any stainless steel kit and anything that is not in original packaging. The difference in cost is just not worth it. Wait the 2 weeks for an RRA kit to come in (I'd sell you mine san FCG, but I won't even be near it for two weeks so you are better off going through RRA).

 

[phx223]

here's the place to get Colt parts: http://www.specializedarmament.com/

My next lpk comes out to a whopping $435 (Colt parts, BAD A.S.S. safety, Geissele SD-3G trigger and an old school miad grip with inergrated trigger guard), pretty amazing considering that a 50 dollar kit from PSA makes the same impact on the firing pin.

 

[md123]

....however I prefer to error on the side of not going to federalrapeyouinthebuttprision.

I hear they are more like minimum security resorts. Did you know they have conjugal visits? We should be so lucky. [name that movie]

 

[sailskidrive]

The RRA, DPMS, and Fulton kits contain some MIM parts if that matters to you.

I prefer the LWRC and Spikes LPKs over the Colt parts. Specifically the machining on the LWRC is superb.

 

[md123]

The RRA, DPMS, and Fulton kits contain some MIM parts if that matters to you.

I prefer the LWRC and Spikes LPKs over the Colt parts. Specifically the machining on the LWRC is superb.

LWRC 'enhanced' triggers can be had around $115. Is that good value IYO?

 

[AliasNeo07]

The RRA, DPMS, and Fulton kits contain some MIM parts if that matters to you.

I prefer the LWRC and Spikes LPKs over the Colt parts. Specifically the machining on the LWRC is superb.

Spikes doesnt have MIM parts?

From how I see it you should be gtg with the tele-stock and A2 grip , since MD considers the lower to be the evil part. But others on here think that just having the lower is enough, and I can't say that they are wrong, however I prefer to error on the side of not going to federalrapeyouinthebuttprision.



For the most part kits are thought of as the same. Guys that have built a lot more lowers then I have say a lpk is an lpk is an lpk. I have to assume that they are using lpk's from known vendors as some lpk's have trickeled in from China and Tiawan. These guys also have the ability to install a slightly out of spec lpk, have extra parts incase there is an issue and have the proper tools to install the parts.

When doing my research for my first build I found that the ranking generally went:
Colt
LMT/Grant Pieced together
DD
Stag/CMMG/DPMS/Spikes/PSA/RRA
Delton/DoubleStar
Stainless Crap/noname

And how did I come to that ranking, Colt/LMT/DD have big names to protect.
Stag/CMMG/DPMS/Spikes/PSA/RRA make a lot of LPK's, they are bound to have it down

Everyone else, eh. Although I do hear that Armalites bolt catch is the bee's knees.

Again, I'm no smith. Just a bored engineer that over thinks things and lives in the margins.

If it is one of your first builds I'd go with RRA, their pins are known for going in easy and I think they have an option that comes w/o FCG.

Getting a PSA kit would be a decent option too (I have one of those waiting for me out west, 2 more weeks until I can help my pop's build a lower, I'm still debating installing a Giessele 3.5 lbs trigger on his .22 build, but I'm not sure I'd get it back if I did).

As to a standard, that would be Colt. You can piece together an LPK from them, san FCG and Safety for 90 dollars, but thats alot to pay for some springs and pins. I do think that any of the midrange kits will do you just fine.

Stay away from any stainless steel kit and anything that is not in original packaging. The difference in cost is just not worth it. Wait the 2 weeks for an RRA kit to come in (I'd sell you mine san FCG, but I won't even be near it for two weeks so you are better off going through RRA).

Thanks for all the info. This will be my highest quality build...so I will pick my LPK accordingly. Thanks again.

 

[rmdashrf]

I hear they are more like minimum security resorts. Did you know they have conjugal visits? We should be so lucky. [name that movie]

Too easy! Office space!