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    101st Poptart Assault BSB
    Mar 6, 2011
    1,590
    Eldersburg, MD
    I hate to say it but voting on anyone without a track record is like a crapshoot. They promise the world and then when the time comes to stand behind their word they vote along party lines or with the current "temp" of the populous instead of "sticking to their guns" .

    At Least if they come right out and state their position, like it or not you know what you have. So very few politicians seem to keep their word.
     

    Straightshooter

    Active Member
    Aug 28, 2010
    5,015
    Baltimore County
    Anyone who thinks Hogan will be a fresh face in Annapolis needs to look into his political past. During the Ehrlich period, he was the Governor's Appointment Director. This doesn't mean he kept the Governor's calendar. It means his job was to make a list of people to be appointed to various jobs and commissions, mostly as political payback. This is about as old school politics as it gets, yet he professes to want "Change"?
     

    Straightshooter

    Active Member
    Aug 28, 2010
    5,015
    Baltimore County
    OK, finally got permission to post the highlights of the meeting.

    Larry Hogan's plan for the 2A community as suggested and discussed on April 21:

    Day one as Governor, replace the entire cabinet to include Secretary of the State Police and the Director of Public Safety and corrections.

    Issue a directive to MSP, that self protection shall be a G&S reason for a carry permit. This would effectively make MD a shall issue state, without the need of the legislature.

    Issue a directive that the one shot firearms certification for the HQL will be removed from the requirement.

    Issue a directive that any and all administrative changes to licensing and dealers will be published in COMAR instead of changing at the whim of the individual in charge on a daily basis, based on how their coffee tasted that morning.

    Revamp the Cease Fire Council, the Handgun Review Board, and the Handgun Permit Review Board.

    I just checked Hogans web page again and still do not see any public statement concerning this issue. When will that happen?
     

    Signifier

    Banned
    BANNED!!!
    Ehrlich was going to be our buddy in his second term. We waited for four years because it was smart, and still got nothing. In the unlikely scenario that a Republican becomes governor, I don't want to hear about him needing to lie low for 2018. Let's do the right thing now.


    I think a Republican Governor can use executive order to enforce the 2A and override SB281 as unconstitutional. So winning the House and Senate may not even be needed. However, the current lawsuits that are pending against FSA2013 may take care of the issue as well.
     

    Boondock Saint

    Active Member
    Dec 11, 2008
    23,905
    White Marsh
    I think a Republican Governor can use executive order to enforce the 2A and override SB281 as unconstitutional. So winning the House and Senate may not even be needed. However, the current lawsuits that are pending against FSA2013 may take care of the issue as well.

    A governor cannot repeal a law off the books, period.

    The best a new governor could do for us would be to replace all of the appointed antis within MSP and direct them to, among other things, accept self defense as a "good and substantial" reason to carry.
     

    PresentArms

    Active Member
    Mar 8, 2008
    2,234
    Middle River
    Hogan has never mentioned 2A and I've questioned him many times without any reply. David Craig has spoken many times about 2A and is a Life Member of the NRA spoke to him a few times and I think I'm standing behind David Craig for now
     

    LibertyGun

    Junior Member
    May 19, 2014
    66
    District 14, PRM
    At best we can expect a governor who won't push through more anti-gun BS, and who may make a few minor changes administratively, but won't do a thing beyond that. And what's really pathetic is that so many here will call that a "victory" for our side because we're accustomed to living in a liberal state, and any time we can slow down the train to tyranny, that's considered a win, even though nothing will ever happen legislatively that puts the train in reverse. Our hopes hinge on judicial proceedings and nothing more.

    I agree. While Hogan caught my attention with his responses to taxes, I find his website to be very one dimensional. It really does not say much about him at all. The fact he does not mention 2A at all is telling.

    Any repub candidate will need to have a few issues they support that are attractive to Md majorities. My read is that gun control is one battle Hogan does not intend to fight, with some possibility of a worst case that he becomes a Bloomberg style repub. That's where he could be a disaster if he decides 2A should be sacrificed to make him look more interesting to Marylanders.

    Craig at least spells out his position and appears to be someone of integrity who would not conveniently change his mind as soon as it suits. He just doesn't seem to have any ability to make a majority, especially coming from the more rural part of Md. It's only a month to the primary and repub undecideds still far outnumber any given candidate.

    If a dem wins, it easy to see 2A get the full court press and our situation get worse. Gun control is very popular here and democrats have a super majority. We in opposition are like bugs scurrying this way and that under foot of the empire. We have no organization, and can only mount feeble protests when our 2A rights are dismantled. Oct came and went with a whimper, it was almost embarrassing. sb 281 in most other states would have started a civil war. In Md, 100 people show up at a shopping mall to complain and then go home.

    Might be time to look at the move to Va.
     

    Mr H

    Banana'd
    We in opposition are like bugs scurrying this way and that under foot of the empire. We have no organization, and can only mount feeble protests when our 2A rights are dismantled. Oct came and went with a whimper, it was almost embarrassing. sb 281 in most other states would have started a civil war. In Md, 100 people show up at a shopping mall to complain and then go home.

    :banghead:

    The obvious fallacies aside, what does October have to do with anything?
     

    Haides

    Active Member
    Oct 12, 2012
    3,784
    Glen Burnie
    I agree. While Hogan caught my attention with his responses to taxes, I find his website to be very one dimensional. It really does not say much about him at all. The fact he does not mention 2A at all is telling.

    Any repub candidate will need to have a few issues they support that are attractive to Md majorities. My read is that gun control is one battle Hogan does not intend to fight, with some possibility of a worst case that he becomes a Bloomberg style repub. That's where he could be a disaster if he decides 2A should be sacrificed to make him look more interesting to Marylanders.

    Craig at least spells out his position and appears to be someone of integrity who would not conveniently change his mind as soon as it suits. He just doesn't seem to have any ability to make a majority, especially coming from the more rural part of Md. It's only a month to the primary and repub undecideds still far outnumber any given candidate.

    If a dem wins, it easy to see 2A get the full court press and our situation get worse. Gun control is very popular here and democrats have a super majority. We in opposition are like bugs scurrying this way and that under foot of the empire. We have no organization, and can only mount feeble protests when our 2A rights are dismantled. Oct came and went with a whimper, it was almost embarrassing. sb 281 in most other states would have started a civil war. In Md, 100 people show up at a shopping mall to complain and then go home.

    Might be time to look at the move to Va.

    Quite an interesting choice for a first post... You been here before?
     

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