Keeping rifle in car in md. Legal?

[Saberwalk]

The DNR statute prohibits any loaded long gun carry in a vehicle.

MD 4-209 gives MD preemption over local firearm law

An unloaded rifle in a vehicle is legal in MD

There is no requirement for casing it like a handgun

I can put my silencer equipped SBR on my back seat with my Magpul 60 round drum next to it. Perfectly legal.

IMO a normal SD round is not “explosive” by its definition including hollow points

IANAL


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Thanks. I am primarily concerned about wear and carry of a handgun. Given that a pistol or revolver is defined as “Any gun with a barrel less than twelve (12) inches in length that uses ‘fixed ammunition;’” and given that “fixed ammunition is defined as “Any ammunition composed of a projectile or projectiles, a casing, an explosive charge and a primer, all of which shall be contained as one (1) unit;” then it would generally follow that “explosive ammunition’ has a specific meaning, different from fixed ammunition such that the absence of the exemption for a W&C permit does not create a conflict with state law and 57-11. That said, I have no idea what the difference would be, particularly as these regulations are so poorly drafted.


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[swinokur]

It’s legal in my opinion but IANAL. As noted a handgun used fixed ammo not explosive ammo

MOCO is attempting to exclude even W&C permit holders from carry in a public area.

MSI has testified against this proposal and all but told them if you pass this we will sue you and win based on Bruen

It’s their move


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[swinokur]

So--- I've read the entire thread an didn't see this question come up. I've wondered about this for awhile and can't recall ever reading about it here on the forums.

Question: Can a wear and carry permit holder transport or carry more than one loaded handgun/AR pistol/SBR in a vehicle or on his/her person at a time?

As many as you like. The statute Makes no mention of quantity

Therefore if not prohibited it’s legal


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[teratos]

It’s legal in my opinion but IANAL. As noted a handgun used fixed ammo not explosive ammo

MOCO is attempting to exclude even W&C permit holders from carry in a public area.

MSI has testified against this proposal and all but told them if you pass this we will sue you and win based on Bruen

It’s their move

I hope Moco does it. They need to get their pee-pee slapped. The sad thing is, these dingleberries use our money to push their losing strategy.

 

[swinokur]

Statists do what statists do


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[teratos]

Is the MD law Constitutional?

See my signature.

 

[Threeband]

The only gun I can think of specifically designed to use "explosive ammunition" is an experimental British muzzle loader from the 1850s.

That MoCo law is gibberish.

 

[swinokur]

Like most stuff that comes out of their warped minds


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[Blacksmith101]

It’s legal in my opinion but IANAL. As noted a handgun used fixed ammo not explosive ammo

MOCO is attempting to exclude even W&C permit holders from carry in a public area.

MSI has testified against this proposal and all but told them if you pass this we will sue you and win based on Bruen

It’s their move


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Here is a link to

Written Testimony Of Mark W. Pennak, President, MSI, in Opposition To Bill 21-22​

Written Testimony Of Mark W. Pennak, President, MSI, in Opposition To Bill 21-22

...

www.marylandshallissue.org

It is a good read.

 

[swinokur]

Mark P. is gonna kick their ass and they know it

But it won’t stop them from trying


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[teratos]

He’s gonna kick their ass

He just might be able to grab the stone from Justice Thomas’ hand.

 

[EXIT WOUND]

Hell. just put a gun rack in the back window of the pick up.

 

[swinokur]

He just might be able to grab the stone from Justice Thomas’ hand.

And smite them with the scales of Justice


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[dblas]

Sorry for reviving this thread but I am a new MOCO W&C permit holder and have not seen any other discussion directly on point about MOCO 57-10. I read the entire chapter and cannot make sense of 57-10 unless the undefined term "explosive ammunition" and "lawful mission" have a specific meaning.

The provision seems to prohibit open or concealed carry of a weapon designed to use "explosive ammunition" except for the indicated exemptions which do not include the wear and carry permit.

In contrast, 57-11 prohibits possession of a firearm and ammunition within 100 yards of a place of public assembly but does not apply to: "apply to the possession of a handgun by a person who has received a permit to carry the handgun under State law." How are these two provisions reconciled or is it too much to expect sense here.

It would appear that they are using the term "explosive ammunition" interchangeably with "fixed ammunition".

State Statute is the controlling authority on ALL things dealing with the wear and carry of handguns via state preemption. So, with regards to carrying a handgun with a permit, in your vehicle in MoCo, you are perfectly legal.
Also, I have yet to know of anyone with a carry permit arrested for doing so in their vehicle in MoCo. With all do respect, you are probably overthinking this, and you are worrying about something that is currently not an issue.

 

[Saberwalk]

It would appear that they are using the term "explosive ammunition" interchangeably with "fixed ammunition".

State Statute is the controlling authority on ALL things dealing with the wear and carry of handguns via state preemption. So, with regards to carrying a handgun with a permit, in your vehicle in MoCo, you are perfectly legal.
Also, I have yet to know of anyone with a carry permit arrested for doing so in their vehicle in MoCo. With all do respect, you are probably overthinking this, and you are worrying about something that is currently not an issue.

Appreciate the response. New W&C holder. While I have been exercising my right, I did want to understand the risks, if any. Always prefer overthinking to under prepared


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[dblas]

Appreciate the response. New W&C holder. While I have been exercising my right, I did want to understand the risks, if any. Always prefer overthinking to under prepared


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A lot of new people are over thinking things, my advise it not to (I know, hard to do with something like this). In this case, the rabbit hole you are in, is not an issue, feel free to com on out of it and find another one. When you do, we will be here to help you out. But does us all a favor, make sure you do a search to see if the next issue has already been addressed.

 

[esqappellate]

The only gun I can think of specifically designed to use "explosive ammunition" is an experimental British muzzle loader from the 1850s.

That MoCo law is gibberish.

Ok, guys. Explosive does not mean an explosive bullet in these statutes. Explosive means the powder charge. All ammunition for a firearm qualifies.

 

[swinokur]

Thank you Counselor.

So even though MD law allows an unloaded rifle on your back seat MO CO prohibits it?

Seems like unloaded trunk carry is legal as well

What about preemption?


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[Threeband]

Smokeless propellant is not an explosive.

 

[Doco Overboard]

Smokeless propellant is not an explosive.

How bout it. Thanks.