Is .40 S&W DOA?

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  • DelawareGold

    Junior Member
    Jul 25, 2022
    25
    New Castle, Delaware
    Just came back from the gun shop,
    (was looking for a Beretta PX4 SC in .40)
    and the manager said he won't stock .40 pistola's.
    The round is dead.?
    Only thing selling is 9mm, so that's what he stocks.
    I was shocked! Is that the general consensus?
    Is .40 and .45 DOA? Did I get that old?
     

    Garet Jax

    Not ignored by gamer_jim
    MDS Supporter
    May 5, 2011
    5,655
    Bel Air
    I have heard similar things. It makes for some pretty good deals on the firearms and the ammunition. I carry a G35 .40 cal and 2 G27 .40 cal. IMO the caliber is not dead.
     

    Phoenix_1295

    Creature of Life and Fire
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 6, 2010
    922
    MD
    Just came back from the gun shop,
    (was looking for a Beretta PX4 SC in .40)
    and the manager said he won't stock .40 pistola's.
    The round is dead.?
    Only thing selling is 9mm, so that's what he stocks.
    I was shocked! Is that the general consensus?
    Is .40 and .45 DOA? Did I get that old?

    Well, if that rumor makes .40 ammo prices go down, I won’t complain. :)

    There are a LOT of .40’s out there in service, so I doubt you’re going to see them stop making .40 ammo.

    One reason the 9mm models have become popular is the compact size options for EDC while maintaining 12 or greater mag capacity.

    I have both. The .40 packs a bigger punch and was my EDC for years. It is still my preference when compactness is not an issue. The 9mm weighs less and is more concealable under lightweight clothing. (I can tuck my 9mm wearing a normal sized light colored T-shirt with no printing.)
     

    Meditator

    Member
    Dec 9, 2007
    540
    Bethesda MD
    .40 is all I shoot, out of my Glock 10mm, and have been doing it for years.
    Only pistols in this caliber I own are police trade-in Sig P226 and P229.
    If it's dead, no big deal, I'll shoot something else. Not gonna sweat!
     

    Garet Jax

    Not ignored by gamer_jim
    MDS Supporter
    May 5, 2011
    5,655
    Bel Air
    Well, if that rumor makes .40 ammo prices go down, I won’t complain. :)

    There are a LOT of .40’s out there in service, so I doubt you’re going to see them stop making .40 ammo.

    One reason the 9mm models have become popular is the compact size options for EDC while maintaining 12 or greater mag capacity.

    I have both. The .40 packs a bigger punch and was my EDC for years. It is still my preference when compactness is not an issue. The 9mm weighs less and is more concealable under lightweight clothing. (I can tuck my 9mm wearing a normal sized light colored T-shirt with no printing.)

    Yeah I picked up a 1000 rounds of HST Federal Premium .40 cal for a little more than FMJ would cost.
     

    Mr. B

    Member
    Jul 9, 2019
    132
    MD
    No. It's lost favor due to LE and Military having weaker and less capable members who want less recoil.

    Also, early 9mm-adapted guns like the Glock 23 wore faster and sometimes had catastrophic failures with handloads that exceeded recommended pressure. Later gens have been beefed up.

    Ballistic performance of modern hollowpoints is close between 9mm-40-45 but not equal.

    I'm happy to have 13 .40 HST's over 15 9mm HSTs.
     

    TheOriginalMexicanBob

    Active Member
    Jul 2, 2017
    24,388
    Sun City West, AZ
    No. It's lost favor due to LE and Military having weaker and less capable members who want less recoil.

    That‘s only part of it. Improvements in bullet technology had a part plus 9mm is cheaper to buy in mass quantities and that’s big deal in budgetary terms. The military‘s commitments to NATO standardization plays a role as well as the FBI’s decision to go with the 9mm influences many law enforcement agencies whether their needs align with FBI protocols or not.
     

    DelawareGold

    Junior Member
    Jul 25, 2022
    25
    New Castle, Delaware
    I carry a .40 P229, but I'm looking for a
    sub compact in .40, and hammer fired.
    The choices are limited. I'm really not
    comfortable with a 9mm. A lot more
    choices in .45 sub compact, but that means
    adding another caliber. I was hoping to
    avoid that. I hear everyone say that 9mm
    has improved, and is as capable as .40 & .45,
    but I'm looking at balistics and gel test videos
    and I'm not seeing it.
     

    Garet Jax

    Not ignored by gamer_jim
    MDS Supporter
    May 5, 2011
    5,655
    Bel Air
    I carry a .40 P229, but I'm looking for a
    sub compact in .40, and hammer fired.
    The choices are limited. I'm really not
    comfortable with a 9mm. A lot more
    choices in .45 sub compact, but that means
    adding another caliber. I was hoping to
    avoid that. I hear everyone say that 9mm
    has improved, and is as capable as .40 & .45,
    but I'm looking at balistics and gel test videos
    and I'm not seeing it.
    Look at a Glock 27.
     

    LuckyShot

    Pissing off Liberals
    Apr 13, 2010
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    on 270
    9 is just the trendy new round. 45 and 40 had its decade or decades.

    357sig and 45acp are my 2 carry cals.

    I dont own a 9 but my girl recently got me a lonewolf conversion barrel for my glock 32 just so i can practice cheaper and she can actually get trigger time on a handgun.

    Honestly idc if a store only stocks 9mm, i do my research before coming in and just order a better cal gun LOL
     
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    DelawareGold

    Junior Member
    Jul 25, 2022
    25
    New Castle, Delaware
    I have a G27, but just can't get used to striker fired
    pistolas. I'm not going to carry appendix with one
    in the pipe, and having to rack one in. I just know
    I would shoot myself in the d!ck.
     

    LuckyShot

    Pissing off Liberals
    Apr 13, 2010
    288
    on 270
    I have a G27, but just can't get used to striker fired
    pistolas. I'm not going to carry appendix with one
    in the pipe, and having to rack one in. I just know
    I would shoot myself in the d!ck.
    would never trust a non-striker gun in appendix.

    Not to mention the damn hammer digging in you.
     

    joppaj

    Sheepdog
    Staff member
    Moderator
    Apr 11, 2008
    42,064
    MD
    There are a lot of police still carrying .40 cal. Until all those contracts dry up, I expect it will remain a viable round. Hell, police never widely adopted .45acp and the military dropped it 40 years ago. It's still common as dirt.
     

    sajidakh

    Member
    Dec 28, 2010
    926
    .40 has its place as an easy way into Major power factor for USPSA competition shooting without having to rely on handloading for 9mm.
     

    Bullfrog

    Active Member
    Oct 8, 2009
    12,107
    Carroll County
    would never trust a non-striker gun in appendix.
    I assume you were only thinking of single action when you typed that?

    Because a decocked DA pistol would be 'more trustworthy' than striker fired. Not that either is going to go off spontaneously, but there would have to be a whole heck of a lot go wrong all at the same time before you'd get a ND from a DA pistol with the hammer down.
     

    Bullfrog

    Active Member
    Oct 8, 2009
    12,107
    Carroll County
    The round is dead.?
    Only thing selling is 9mm, so that's what he stocks.
    I was shocked! Is that the general consensus?
    Is .40 and .45 DOA? Did I get that old?

    Not as long as you can feed it. The last time I was in Bass Pro there was a sh.t load of .40 cal on the shelf... several hundred boxes at least.

    The only things they had more of was 9mm and 5.56.
     

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