IL Legislature passes anti everything bill

[ToolAA]

If he uses some weird convoluted process to can a sheriff and the law is held invalid/unconstitutional, can the sheriff petition for personal damages? What about anyone denied rights by state police if law held unconstitutional? Federal civil rights case (1983) against the officers personally?

Eventually this concept of “Sanctuary Areas” will make it to SCOTUS. It will be interesting to see which case makes it there first: a sanctuary 2a, sanctuary immigration, sanctuary abortion, or sanctuary gender affirming care. Seems like liberals have more to lose by taking a Sanctuary 2a region to SCOTUS and winning.


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[Sundazes]

I hate politicians

Especially Illinois politicians

Jake and Elwood weep

 

[4g64loser]

Eventually this concept of “Sanctuary Areas” will make it to SCOTUS. It will be interesting to see which case makes it there first: a sanctuary 2a, sanctuary immigration, sanctuary abortion, or sanctuary gender affirming care. Seems like liberals have more to lose by taking a Sanctuary 2a region to SCOTUS and winning.


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Sanctuary is a little different than a sheriff refusing to enforce a state law. I agree with you that the libs have a LOT riding on the legality of sanctuary areas but unless the governing body of the jurisdiction passes such a resolution, I suspect that the governor will focus on the sheriff's noncompliance.

You raise a good point. Since the state did this literally overnight (in effect immediately), it will be amusing to see if any localities pass immediate effect sanctuary resolutions. That would probably accelerate the process as the state would be going after its own constituent counties/cities. Would that go to fed district court?

 

[Michigander08]

It seems to me that IL must cut out Chicago and its suburbs.

 

[Uncle Duke]

It seems to me that IL must cut out Chicago and its suburbs.

That's every state afflicted with the disease of liberalism. Too bad this country can't have one consolidated liberal enclave, where they can libby lib each other to their heart's content, and leave the rest of us the hell alone with their constant bullchit.

 

[Trepang]

 

[krucam]

Illinois assault weapons ban: County sheriffs fight back, rifle organization threatens lawsuit

Sheriffs across the Stateline push back after Illinois becomes the latest state to ban assault weapons.

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[rbird7282]

It seems to me that IL must cut out Chicago and its suburbs.

This is why all states need an electoral college, to prevent one or two cities from running (ruining) the entire state.


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[AssMan]

14 sheriffs have declared that they will not enforce this law. Pritzker states that any sheriff not enforcing the law will be removed.
Sheriffs are elected officials, so I'm not sure how he plans to do that.

Basically it sounds like he plans on pitting the state police against the county sheriffs. I don't see what could POSSIBLY go wrong there.

No doubt many Illinois government agents are chomping at the bit to violate your rights. Just following orders and all that.


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[243hunter]

Some of the States Attorneys have already said that the state police may be the ones in handcuffs charged with deprivation of rights under color of law.

 

[Decoy]

 

[ToolAA]

This LGS is brilliant. Why haven’t any MD gun shops figured this out yet.

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[press1280]

If he uses some weird convoluted process to can a sheriff and the law is held invalid/unconstitutional, can the sheriff petition for personal damages? What about anyone denied rights by state police if law held unconstitutional? Federal civil rights case (1983) against the officers personally?

I don't know but a suit needs to be filed ASAP and get a TRO on it. We know this thing was rushed with little or no studies or historical backing, so good luck to IL to defend it.

I wouldn't even put it past the state courts to knock down at least portions of it. The IL Supreme court has been surprisingly solid on 2A matters in recent years.

 

[4g64loser]

I don't know but a suit needs to be filed ASAP and get a TRO on it. We know this thing was rushed with little or no studies or historical backing, so good luck to IL to defend it.

I wouldn't even put it past the state courts to knock down at least portions of it. The IL Supreme court has been surprisingly solid on 2A matters in recent years.

I know zilch about IL state courts, admittedly. Just a question; wouldn't this be better served in federal court where it's a shorter trip to the SCOTUS? I cannot imagine SCOTUS letting this one fly. Might take a bit but that bit would be significantly longer if the case has to wind it's way through the state judiciary first.

 

[243hunter]

I don't know but a suit needs to be filed ASAP and get a TRO on it. We know this thing was rushed with little or no studies or historical backing, so good luck to IL to defend it.

I wouldn't even put it past the state courts to knock down at least portions of it. The IL Supreme court has been surprisingly solid on 2A matters in recent years.

There are at least 3 in the works. I suspect that one will get filed in each of the 3 IL federal judicial circuits. Each suit will cover 3-4 items since the briefs are limited to 28 pages. Each lawsuit will go after different sections of the law. Possible the county States Attorneys will be filing their own lawsuit like they did with the Safe-T act.

Coming to a state near you. This latest infringement is designed to overwhelm the 2A organizations and bankrupt the opposition. McDonald v Chicago was $1.2M in legal fees. Expect just overturning the IL AWB will probably require 2 or three rounds of lawsuits and new bills are being filed that we will be fighting also by the end of the year.

 

[teratos]

There are at least 3 in the works. I suspect that one will get filed in each of the 3 IL federal judicial circuits. Each suit will cover 3-4 items since the briefs are limited to 28 pages. Each lawsuit will go after different sections of the law. Possible the county States Attorneys will be filing their own lawsuit like they did with the Safe-T act.

Coming to a state near you. This latest infringement is designed to overwhelm the 2A organizations and bankrupt the opposition. McDonald v Chicago was $1.2M in legal fees. Expect just overturning the IL AWB will probably require 2 or three rounds of lawsuits and new bills are being filed that we will be fighting also by the end of the year.

I don’t believe any State organization should waste any time or money fighting this childishness in the legislatures. Save money for the lawsuits. The more egregious the laws that pass, the better for us.

 

[outrider58]

This LGS is brilliant. Why haven’t any MD gun shops figured this out yet.

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Brilliant!

 

[Doctor_M]

+100

 

[ChrisD]

This is why all states need an electoral college, to prevent one or two cities from running (ruining) the entire state.


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100% agree. I’ve said this in the past in regards to MD.

 

[Tower43]

This is why all states need an electoral college, to prevent one or two cities from running (ruining) the entire state.


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hell the dems want to remove that from the presidential election too