Hate my new Red Dot

[Zaicran]

I have a holsun on my hellcat pro and just keep practicing. You should quickly figure out where to draw to to be able to line up. Holsun allows for cowitness.

That is the direction I am heading.

 

[Zaicran]

I would look hard at the PA/Holosun 507K ACSS Vulcan, it will sit low, and provide the "self correcting" large outer ring in the reticle.
Not sure if it will 100% cowitness or "mostly" cowitness,, either way, I will be replacing my Shield SMSc with one.

Thanks for this info

 

[Crosseye Dominant]

I have a holsun on my hellcat pro and just keep practicing. You should quickly figure out where to draw to to be able to line up. Holsun allows for cowitness.

Did you grind the 2 lugs or use the CH or DPP plate?

 

[ground chuck]

Did you grind the 2 lugs or use the CH or DPP plate?

I used a c&h plate

 

[Zaicran]

I used a c&h plate

This plate work with the Hellcat Pro?

Springfield Hellcat w/ RMSc Footprint to Holosun 407k / 507k - C&H Precision

Springfield Hellcat Adapter Plate This is the optics adapter plate for the newly released Springfield Hellcat with RMSc Optic Cut. This plate is required to mount a Holosun 507k / 407k without having to modify the existing recoil posts on the slide. The plate is .045" thick. It's CNC machined...

chpws.com

 

[ground chuck]

This plate work with the Hellcat Pro?

Springfield Hellcat w/ RMSc Footprint to Holosun 407k / 507k - C&H Precision

Springfield Hellcat Adapter Plate This is the optics adapter plate for the newly released Springfield Hellcat with RMSc Optic Cut. This plate is required to mount a Holosun 507k / 407k without having to modify the existing recoil posts on the slide. The plate is .045" thick. It's CNC machined...

chpws.com

Yes, i have the holsun 407

 

[E.Shell]

LOL,,
Is that an airsoft RDS round up?
It somehow missed every decent (better quality) Grn RDS out there.

I got the same impression. Maybe they meant 'best green dot under $20.00'.

 

[Zaicran]

I got the same impression. Maybe they meant 'best green dot under $20.00'.

Thanks!

Yes, i have the holsun 407

Thanks!

 

[Slackdaddy]

This plate work with the Hellcat Pro?

Springfield Hellcat w/ RMSc Footprint to Holosun 407k / 507k - C&H Precision

Springfield Hellcat Adapter Plate This is the optics adapter plate for the newly released Springfield Hellcat with RMSc Optic Cut. This plate is required to mount a Holosun 507k / 407k without having to modify the existing recoil posts on the slide. The plate is .045" thick. It's CNC machined...

chpws.com

The Ch plate will allow you to mount the Holosun "K" series on the Hellcat without altering the 2 lugs on the optic cut out of the slide.
BUT - you will loose co-witnessing,, the plate raises it up just enough to loose co-witness (from what I read).
That said,, you could use the plate to "Test run" the Holosun on the Hellcat without altering the lugs,, then when you have decided you like/love the holosun,, remove the plate, alter the lugs and mount the Holosun directly,, and once again use those BEAUTIFUL Hellcat irons.

 

[Zaicran]

The Ch plate will allow you to mount the Holosun "K" series on the Hellcat without altering the 2 lugs on the optic cut out of the slide.
BUT - you will loose co-witnessing,, the plate raises it up just enough to loose co-witness (from what I read).
That said,, you could use the plate to "Test run" the Holosun on the Hellcat without altering the lugs,, then when you have decided you like/love the holosun,, remove the plate, alter the lugs and mount the Holosun directly,, and once again use those BEAUTIFUL Hellcat irons.

Thanks., when I get to the point of filing, I will probably reach out.

 

[Parry]

My instructor told me that he was taught in the military to grip a pistol with thumbs pointed at the target. Just aim your thumbs and your red dot will be there.

 

[SkiPatrolDude]

I have a new Hellcat Pro with a Trijicon RMRcc optic.

This is my first handgun with optics and honestly, I'm not a fan. It is not my carry. (My carry is a Beretta PX4 Storm SC).

Is there some trick to lining that pistol up so I can see the red dot? I raise the pistol and then struggle to see the dot (brightness not an issue)...the dot just isn't there. Takes me a bit to actually see it. When I lower it and bring it back to same position, once again I am fighting to see the red dot again.

Any suggestions?

One word.

Training

 

[Catch-10-22]

@learjet - so you ground off the other pins to make that work without a plate? How hard was that?

Still looks much lower than my 507K on my Hellcat Pro. Need to find one of those EPS dots…


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[learjet]

wow where did my post go???

Catch-10-22 i have a buddy with a mill, but i just used a cutting wheel and drememl took a few minutes. rear pins come down flush, fronts just need a bit of trimming. theres u youtube vid on it, ill post a link



my original post seems to have been deleted, dont know why…all i said was if cowittness is important to you, then lowest deck height avaialable red dot is the holosun eps carry. they are hard to find, but i picked mine up at the last frederick show. the hex wasp that came with my hellcat had a lower deck height, and blocked less of the irons then a 407/507 mounted without a plate. the new eps carry is shorter still



heres some pix of my hellcat/eps carry

 

[Catch-10-22]

Thanks! I am using a plate now and while I don’t have issues finding the dot (I have worked a ton on presentation) being able to use the irons as a back-up is my preference.

 

[Zaicran]

The Ch plate will allow you to mount the Holosun "K" series on the Hellcat without altering the 2 lugs on the optic cut out of the slide.
BUT - you will loose co-witnessing,, the plate raises it up just enough to loose co-witness (from what I read).
That said,, you could use the plate to "Test run" the Holosun on the Hellcat without altering the lugs,, then when you have decided you like/love the holosun,, remove the plate, alter the lugs and mount the Holosun directly,, and once again use those BEAUTIFUL Hellcat irons.

I can stil co-witress. And I like it

 

[Biggfoot44]

I found this interesting. I don’t have a red dot pistol and did not realize there was such a steep learning curve.

I was about to reference this .

 

[Slackdaddy]

I can stil co-witress. And I like it

did you get it all mounted up ?
I finally got around to shooting my Hellcat today,,, compared to my CZ PCR Compact,, the Hellcat is snappy as heck,, I am going to need some professional one on one,, I was low and all over the place,, like 12" low at 15 yards.

 

[Slackdaddy]

I was about to reference this .

I watched that too,,, he came across "biased" to me,, or had a chip on his shoulder.
I don't like the idea of adding complexity,, but bottom line is: it is either a red dot or "point shooting" for me,, my eyes are not seeing irons on a pistol.
My pistols have sat "Unfired" for almost 15 years, reflex sights have changed that

 

[Biggfoot44]

Less biased than red dot fanboys .

But of course , for the significantly Visually Challenged , it is totally different parameters . ( no snark intended )