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Hanson V DC, The DC Magazine Capacity Case

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  • Ismee

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    Is this the Plaintiffs attempt at history and tradition?

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    Jan 23, 2023
    REPLY to opposition to motion re 8 MOTION for Preliminary Injunction filed by NATHAN CHANEY, ANDREW HANSON, ERIC KLUN, TYLER YZAGUIRRE. (Attachments: # 1 Declaration Ex. 1 Hanish Declaration, # 2 Declaration Ex. 2 Helsley Declaration, # 3 Declaration Ex. 3 Hlebinsky Declaration, # 4 Declaration Ex 4 Givens Declaration, # 5 Declaration Ex. 5 Harnish Declaration, # 6 Declaration Ex. 6 Murphy Declaration, # 7 Declaration Ex. 7 Ellifritz Declaration, # 8 Declaration Ex. 8 Werner Declaration, # 9 Exhibit Ex. 9 Examples of marketing of guns with magazines in excess of 10 rounds for self-defense, # 10 Declaration Ex. 10 Swearer Declaration, # 11 Exhibit Ex 11 Testimony of Massad Ayoob, # 12 Exhibit Ex, 12 Kopel,Bowie knife statutes, # 13 Exhibit Ex. 13 Virginia historic machine gun statute, # 14 Declaration Ex. 14 Cramer Declaration, # 15 Declaration Ex, 15 Kleck Declaration)(Lyon, George) (Entered: 01/23/2023)
    Main Doc
    Reply to opposition to motion

     

    Longhorse

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    Is this the Plaintiffs attempt at history and tradition?

    24
    Jan 23, 2023
    REPLY to opposition to motion re 8 MOTION for Preliminary Injunction filed by NATHAN CHANEY, ANDREW HANSON, ERIC KLUN, TYLER YZAGUIRRE. (Attachments: # 1 Declaration Ex. 1 Hanish Declaration, # 2 Declaration Ex. 2 Helsley Declaration, # 3 Declaration Ex. 3 Hlebinsky Declaration, # 4 Declaration Ex 4 Givens Declaration, # 5 Declaration Ex. 5 Harnish Declaration, # 6 Declaration Ex. 6 Murphy Declaration, # 7 Declaration Ex. 7 Ellifritz Declaration, # 8 Declaration Ex. 8 Werner Declaration, # 9 Exhibit Ex. 9 Examples of marketing of guns with magazines in excess of 10 rounds for self-defense, # 10 Declaration Ex. 10 Swearer Declaration, # 11 Exhibit Ex 11 Testimony of Massad Ayoob, # 12 Exhibit Ex, 12 Kopel,Bowie knife statutes, # 13 Exhibit Ex. 13 Virginia historic machine gun statute, # 14 Declaration Ex. 14 Cramer Declaration, # 15 Declaration Ex, 15 Kleck Declaration)(Lyon, George) (Entered: 01/23/2023)
    Main Doc
    Reply to opposition to motion



    So what does this mean? I'm not seeing a viewable main document currently.
     

    Sunrise

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    Aug 18, 2020
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    So what does this mean? I'm not seeing a viewable main document currently.
    You'd have to pay for access to the filing, but it means that this case is still going forward. However, there's an issue which the Plaintiff's Attorney needs to address by 1/31/2023:


    Tuesday, January 24, 2023
    NOTICE of Provisional/Government Not Certified Status re24 REPLY to opposition to motion re8 MOTION for Preliminary Injunction filed by NATHAN CHANEY, ANDREW HANSON, ERIC KLUN, TYLER YZAGUIRRE.(Lyon, George). Your attorney renewal/government certification has not been received. As a result, your membership with the U.S. District & Bankruptcy Courts for the District of Columbia is not in good standing, and you are not permitted to file. Pursuant to Local Civil Rule 83.9, you must immediately correct your membership status by following the appropriate instructions on this page of our website: https://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/attorney-renewal. Please be advised that the presiding judge in this case has been notified that you are currently not in good standing to file in this court. Renewal Due by 1/31/2023. (zbaj)

    Hope that gets sorted out quickly.
     

    Sunrise

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    That's a big oops!
    Oops is right. Bad timing.

    Attorney Renewal and Government Certification
    In compliance with the United States District Court for the District of Columbia's Local Rule 83.9(a), each member of the bar of this Court shall renew his or her membership every three years by filing with the Clerk of the Court a renewal certificate and pay a renewal fee in the amount of $25.00.
    Hope it's resolved without issue.
     
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    Longhorse

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    You'd have to pay for access to the filing, but it means that this case is still going forward. However, there's an issue which the Plaintiff's Attorney needs to address by 1/31/2023:




    Hope that gets sorted out quickly.

    Hopefully so. That issue doesn’t exactly inspire confidence though.
     

    Kanly

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    Feb 15, 2012
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    Washington, DC
    When I was trying to get a CCW permit issue cleared up (some bad info was going around) Mr. Lyon had a very long and substantive email exchange with me and answered a lot of questions just for the hell of it.

    My understanding is he is very well-regarded in the 2A arena and has had some major success in suing DC -- was involved with both Heller and Palmer.

    This must have just been a dumb mistake.
     

    Sunrise

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    Aug 18, 2020
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    When I was trying to get a CCW permit issue cleared up (some bad info was going around) Mr. Lyon had a very long and substantive email exchange with me and answered a lot of questions just for the hell of it.

    My understanding is he is very well-regarded in the 2A arena and has had some major success in suing DC -- was involved with both Heller and Palmer.

    This must have just been a dumb mistake.
    Yeah, he's got a great reputation from what I've heard too. No doubt he's got a lot on his plate. Must have been an accidental oversight on his part. If we're able to finally carry "high capacity magazines" and carry on public transit when in DC, it'll be because of his heavy lifting.
     

    Sunrise

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    Aug 18, 2020
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    Hopefully so. That issue doesn’t exactly inspire confidence though.
    He's probably been so focused on drafting the legal briefs that this administrative stuff slipped his mind. I just hope that the DC District Court doesn't leverage it against him in any way and slow walk his renewal such that it affects his filings. What the Judges don't run there the office staff does, and it's probably easy for them to park things in a pile through "malicious compliance".
     

    Longhorse

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    Jul 8, 2021
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    He's probably been so focused on drafting the legal briefs that this administrative stuff slipped his mind. I just hope that the DC District Court doesn't leverage it against him in any way and slow walk his renewal such that it affects his filings. What the Judges don't run there the office staff does, and it's probably easy for them to park things in a pile through "malicious compliance".

    That’s fair. I think my comment may have come across more critical than I intended. I didn’t realize it was Mr. Lyons specifically. His reputation precedes him and he seems to have done some great things for the 2A in DC. Mistakes happen and you’re right, he’s probably more focused on the actual case, and rightly so. I also hope they don’t try to slow roll his renewal.

    Based on his reputation here, I’d certainly be interested in training with him.
     

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