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  • cb51

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    I've been a knife knut my whole life, from a very early age. As a little kid, I'd stand and stare at the knife display at the sporting goods store and the gun shop near my home. Pocket knives, sheath knives, they all were recipients of my knife lust. By Junior high school I was carrying a Buck folding hunter everywhere. Then I tried the Gerber folding sportsman, and read about Randall knives. I later started to collect and use Randall knives in my 20's, when I was in the army. My buds thought I was stark raving insane to spend that kind go money on a knife, but I loved it. My Randall 15 was my go-to knife for backpacking, canoeing, hiking. My Randall bird and trout was my fishing knife.

    Then a funny thing happened in my 40's. I have no explanation of it, and it was weird. It was like slowly coming out of a deep dream, and thinking "what the heck am I doing?" I looked around at my almost 100 piece knife collection, and wondered what it was all for. I still loved knives, but something happened that I now had a harder more pragmatic outlook. I sold off all my customs, including my 5 Randall's, my Don Hastings, Ralph Bone, and others. My gun collection was greatly downsized as well.

    I still won't walk out the front door without a knife in my pocket, or two, but it's way way toned down. I actually don't even own any sheath knives except for the old Buck 102 woodsman that is my fishing and camping knife. But 99.9% of the time now, I don't bother with anything but a Swiss Army Knife. Due to arthritis and an old service injury that had some long range repercussions on my walking, I don't backpack anymore and never will again. But the better half and I still love to woods ramble, so I still keep a few pocket knives on hand. Mostly SAK's, some with a saw blade.

    Looking back, it seems like I was in the grip of some kind of temporary insanity. At the time, I thought I was getting the best cutlery to be had, but the truth of the matter is, I never found the heavy Randall to do as good a job cutting stuff as a thin bladed Swedish Mora, or French Opinel. Certainly I was never in a "survival" situation where my knife was a matter of life and death. I seem to have totally lost my taste for the high end knives, and to great deal knives in general.

    It's been almost 20 years now that I've greatly scaled back my cutlery and firearms, and I find that I haven't missed any of it. Guns and knives that in my earlier day I'd say that I'd never part with, I sold off and never looked back. It felt liberating to free myself of all those possessions. Now I have a few .22's I target shoot with, a .38 in the bedside table for defense, a sharp pocket knife that I can replace at Dick's or Walmart, and Im happy. All my knife needs now seem to be met with a SAK of some type. The type depending on where I'm going and what I'm doing. It seems like being a senior citizen has changed my point of view a lot. More than I'd ever have thought possible than when I was young.

    Any of you guys have that happen to you?
     
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    GUNSnROTORS

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    No, it hasn't happened to me yet. I've been even more interested in edged tools lately. Not sure what "old" is these days. Not sure I want to know. :o

    I live on a tree farm and have associated chores. Try to walk through the woods a few times each month with a bush knife, hatchet, and pruning saw, etc. Away from home I always carry a quality folder. Always seems to come in handy and might even save my life one day.
     

    Alea Jacta Est

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    Pretty damned existential of ya CB51. Pretty damned insightful too. I sincerely appreciate you sharing it.

    The journey into old age is fascinating. What you have and what you value changes. I've seen that with my life and my stuff.

    I believe you're right; less is more. The less time I have the more I appreciate the little things.

    I've tried hard to never let what I had or didn't have to define me or to influence my attitude.

    Well said. I appreciate your insight and inspiration.
     

    Bob A

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    Collection and dispersion are the two sides of that coin.

    Most of us have an innate interest in the finer products of human hands/minds. The choice of what will attract a given person is not always obvious; sometimes it is deeply hidden.

    After a while the impulse is satisfied; certainly as age creeps up on us choices must be made; keep all this? give it away? cash out? Sometimes it's not a choice, and sometimes a part of us chooses without necessarily letting our more conscious self know that a decision has been made.

    I've got lots of stuff, for lots of reasons. Can't keep it all, and eventually can't take it with me. That makes me lucky, or puts a burden on me, one way or another. Sometimes there's a responsibility involved; there is stuff that really needs to be passed on - in some ways we can merely be caretakers over our lifetimes.
     

    Sam Salvati

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    Apr 22, 2013
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    you have reached a true understanding of knives, past all the hype and sales gimmicks and silly use of space age materials to pure performance. You dont need to brag about how much so and so folder was, or who made it. you want something that cuts, everyday things not zombie slayers or silly crap like that.
     

    NickZac

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    Aug 12, 2007
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    I look at knives as collecting the same way people look at collecting coins, guns, clothes, etc.

    A $8 Opinel is a great knife. So is a $100 Spyderco, a $200 Benchmade a $300 Chris Reeve, a $600 Les George, a $2,000 William Henry, a $3,000 Darrel Ralph, a $4,000 Warren Thomas, or a variety of other makers/brands at various prices. You may have certain knives you carry and/or use, versus others you collect. Intended purpose affects what we buy and like. I can appreciate varying purposes, designs, intentions, etc. If there werent so many different people liking different styles, there wouldnt be such variety to the market, with so many different makers doing different things. I think that is part of the excitement of the hobby.

    I also see it as a hobby that one doesn't have to lose money with. A fine knife collection is a retirement fund. A few years ago, a buddy of mine who has religiously collected Spyderco LE knives since the original Delica and Endura premiered recently sold most of his collection over the period of a year to the tune of well over $100,000...I don't think he spent even 20% of that purchasing the knives. I have another buddy who purchased a LE ZT knife for about $600 and sold it for over $3,000 less than a year later.
     

    MedInfantry

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    I'm 38 and it's starting to affect me with the amount of money I've spent on firearms over the years. I enjoy firearms and I've been a collector since 2004-5, most of the collection built up around preparing and the other half just to talk about. I think you've come to a place where you only ever needed a few and the rest weren't for any real use other than in a display case and that's ok. Set your expectations for why you collect them and not for what you won't use them for and I think you'll enjoy your collection for exactly what it is ... a great collection with a great story.

    Hope this helps.

    Best,

    mjw
     

    cb51

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    I look at knives as collecting the same way people look at collecting coins, guns, clothes, etc.

    A $8 Opinel is a great knife. So is a $100 Spyderco, a $200 Benchmade a $300 Chris Reeve, a $600 Les George, a $2,000 William Henry, a $3,000 Darrel Ralph, a $4,000 Warren Thomas, or a variety of other makers/brands at various prices. You may have certain knives you carry and/or use, versus others you collect. Intended purpose affects what we buy and like. I can appreciate varying purposes, designs, intentions, etc. If there werent so many different people liking different styles, there wouldnt be such variety to the market, with so many different makers doing different things. I think that is part of the excitement of the hobby.

    I also see it as a hobby that one doesn't have to lose money with. A fine knife collection is a retirement fund. A few years ago, a buddy of mine who has religiously collected Spyderco LE knives since the original Delica and Endura premiered recently sold most of his collection over the period of a year to the tune of well over $100,000...I don't think he spent even 20% of that purchasing the knives. I have another buddy who purchased a LE ZT knife for about $600 and sold it for over $3,000 less than a year later.

    Ya know, I used to think like that, but I found out I was wrong. Yes, I made money when I sold off my Randall collection. But when I broke it down over the time I had kept them, it wasn't any better a return on my money than my accounts at Morgan-Stanley. And it was a giant PITA to sell them. First, the collector queers had a fit one them being used and scratched. Heck yes they were used, I'm not spending 200 dollars on knife and not using it. When you sell collectables, you have to find a buyer who is reasonable enough to do business with. A PITA.

    No, if I want a retirement fund, I'm talking with Fidelity, Morgan-Stanley, or a Swiss banker. Guns and knives do not make a good retirement program.
     

    Bob A

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    Guns & knives don't make a good retirement program. Gold coins don't make a good retirement program. Treasury bonds don't make a good retirement program. No one thing makes a good retirement program.

    It may be a PITA to sell a collection of anything; but if you pursue a subject, learn in depth about it, buy with a knowledgable eye, and don't let your passion rule your good sense, you will do well. It's best to buy low, sell high, and choose your timing so that you're not forced to de-accession in a down market.

    And remember, there's always a buyer for the world's best example of something.

    I probably have half a year's salary in assorted firearms and ammunition. Took me several decades to amass, and I'll make money on every item, when I choose to sell. Maybe I won't beat Wall Street this year, but I could have tripled my money in 2013. Anyone who doesn't see the stock market as a giant casino is kidding himself.

    That said, I own stocks and bonds too. Diversity is good, in many respects. It's just Montgomery County Democrats that give it a bad name.
     

    NickZac

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    Ya know, I used to think like that, but I found out I was wrong. Yes, I made money when I sold off my Randall collection. But when I broke it down over the time I had kept them, it wasn't any better a return on my money than my accounts at Morgan-Stanley. And it was a giant PITA to sell them. First, the collector queers had a fit one them being used and scratched. Heck yes they were used, I'm not spending 200 dollars on knife and not using it. When you sell collectables, you have to find a buyer who is reasonable enough to do business with. A PITA.

    No, if I want a retirement fund, I'm talking with Fidelity, Morgan-Stanley, or a Swiss banker. Guns and knives do not make a good retirement program.

    We'll have to agree to disagree there.

    I enjoy collecting different knives and my point is that it isn't a hobby you sink tons of money into and never see a penny of it again...in fact, some people have made a lot more money on hobby collecting than most people have with many other forms of traditional investments (which by no means have done very well this past decade for many people.)

    The value of the hobby beyond financial gain/loss is another major reason for doing so. I have some hobbies I know I lose money on but do so knowingly because I enjoy it. Some people enjoy traveling. I like knives. Different strokes for different folks in that sense.

    I suppose years from now if I am still alive I could look back and agree with you, but my personal take at least now is really different.
     

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