Encounter with LE while carrying

[outrider58]

I’d have to show the cops that I am the legal home occupant before answering his questions.

We have a packet next to the front door.

For just such an emergency….

That's why I carry my Home Occupancy Permit(HCP) on my person whenever I'm home...

 

[Threeband]

Bet they politely hand over their receipts on the way out too!

Don't get that controversy started again! That's more contentious that this one.

That's why I carry my Home Occupancy Permit(HCP) on my person whenever I'm home...

I just show them my deed and my mortgage paperwork.

 

[outrider58]

If I’m getting pulled over, my wallet is out and on my lap before the officer ever gets out of his car.


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I prefer to wait til they get up to my truck. Sometimes, too much movement inside the vehicle can raise suspicion.

Mind you, I might get pulled over every 6 or 8 years, so not something I have a lot of experience with. The last time I did get pulled over(cut a MoCo cop off in tight traffic), the officer didn't ask me for any ID. He just wanted to bitch at me for cutting him off. Lol! I apologized and we both went our merry ways.

I can think of situations where I might notify, but it would be to ward off a possible dangerous situation. So far, this hasn't come up though.

 

[pitpawten]

Here on the shore you're more likely to run into LE who are sympathetic and perhaps active in 2A things and may want to strike up a convo (assuming you weren't a jerk or into serious violation).

I know of one Easton PD officer who's wife was there actively testifying with us last year on SB1.

Another MSP officer I know from Easton was providing crowd control back during SB281 and said "If I weren't on duty today I would be in line with you"

 

[Biggfoot44]

No requirement to disclose. You can't lie if asked obviously.

It's a divisive topic. I'm not disclosing more than necessary.

It's a calculation either way .

As outlined in the first post . is how it ought to be treated , and probably * usually * is .

But Maryland is Maryland , and the number of LEO with a hard on about guns is greater than zero .

 

[soberbyker]

If I’m getting pulled over, my wallet is out and on my lap before the officer ever gets out of his car.


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THIS ^^^ is the Way!

I disagree, I'm not doing any fidgeting around that could be mistaken for an aggressive maneuver. I'll wait for the cop to ask and only provide what he asks for.

 

[pleasant1911]

Did you show her your voter registration and Costco card too?

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lol. That’s flexing.

ma’am you do notice this is An Executive membership…

 

[Blaster229]

All joking aside, this type of repeated behavior gives many cops the thought of "What is expected during a traffic stop". Then they just out of the blue start asking if you have a carry permit when someone doesn't volunteer it, and that opens up a whole can of side of the road worms of chat.

Strive for minimum requirement on a traffic stop. You attempting to gain rapport by offering up about guns and shit isn't getting you out of a ticket. They don't want to be your friend.

 

[Ponder_MD]

I'm not a boot licker in the traditional sense of the term,

 

[outrider58]

All joking aside, this type of repeated behavior gives many cops the thought of "What is expected during a traffic stop". Then they just out of the blue start asking if you have a carry permit when someone doesn't volunteer it, and that opens up a whole can of side of the road worms of chat.

Strive for minimum requirement on a traffic stop. You attempting to gain rapport by offering up about guns and shit isn't getting you out of a ticket. They don't want to be your friend.

Do you really think that? I seriously doubt they run into that many people advising they are carrying.

And who knows, he didn't get a ticket, maybe it worked...

 

[Blaster229]

Do you really think that? I seriously doubt they run into that many people advising they are carrying.

And who knows, he didn't get a ticket, maybe it worked...

Seriously? Do you not read the threads here about traffic stops and "Pleasant interactions" with them? LOL
Keep doing things that cops expect and they will expect those things. Why wouldn't they? You think a cop will say " You really didn't have to show me that".?

 

[outrider58]

Seriously? Do you not read the threads here about traffic stops and "Pleasant interactions" with them? LOL
Keep doing things that cops expect and they will expect those things. Why wouldn't they? You think a cop will say " You really didn't have to show me that".?

I would say I've read many, along with watching hundreds of videos/BWCs of police-driver interactions. Doesn't make me an expert, by any stretch. If you're saying your average patrol officer will undoubtedly fall prey to the Pavlovian response, well, if you say so. I just don't think it happens all that much, but again, I'm not a copper.

 

[Bob A]

All joking aside, this type of repeated behavior gives many cops the thought of "What is expected during a traffic stop". Then they just out of the blue start asking if you have a carry permit when someone doesn't volunteer it, and that opens up a whole can of side of the road worms of chat.

Strive for minimum requirement on a traffic stop. You attempting to gain rapport by offering up about guns and shit isn't getting you out of a ticket. They don't want to be your friend.

Not sure what you mean by "repeated behavior."

What's your insight on retrieving your wallet/DL before the cop arrives at your window? Good idea or not?

 

[BADSHOT]

That's why I carry my Home Occupancy Permit(HCP) on my person whenever I'm home...

LOL!!!!!!!

 

[Blaster229]

Not sure what you mean by "repeated behavior."

What's your insight on retrieving your wallet/DL before the cop arrives at your window? Good idea or not?

You think this guy is the only one to offer up his permit on a traffic stop?
Yeah get your wallet, why not?
That's not a furtive movement. I've pulled plenty people over. The wallet shimmy is different than leaning over reaching under the seat. I almost shot a guy once who did that reaching for a gun. That was a shit show I don't want to relive.
Cops know how to handle their traffic stops whether you go for your wallet or just sit there until he gets to the window.
People just need to do what they feel comfortable doing. It's probably been at least 15 years since I've been pulled over. Maybe longer. YMMV.

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[rseymorejr]

I haven't been pulled over in a long time. The only reason I think I might volunteer that I had a permit and was armed is if I felt like it was likely the officer would spot my gun. Wouldn't want any surprises.

 

[Art3]

I haven't been pulled over in a long time. The only reason I think I might volunteer that I had a permit and was armed is if I felt like it was likely the officer would spot my gun. Wouldn't want any surprises.

Agreed. If there's no chance he or she is going to see it, CMC (in fact, it's the law) and they don't need to know about it. We'll both get through our encounter faster and blissfully ignorant.

If they might see it, it seems probably best if they know about it first.

 

[rbird7282]

I disagree, I'm not doing any fidgeting around that could be mistaken for an aggressive maneuver. I'll wait for the cop to ask and only provide what he asks for.

Half of the time my wallet is in the console already so it’s not an issue at all. Even if I take it out of my pocket, it’s on my lap and my hands are on the steering wheel. Not a big deal


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[Blaster229]

Agreed. If there's no chance he or she is going to see it, CMC (in fact, it's the law) and they don't need to know about it. We'll both get through our encounter faster and blissfully ignorant.

If they might see it, it seems probably best if they know about it first.

How will they "might see it"? If it's on my hip, it won't be seen. If I have it laying on the seat,I have a couple microfiber towels that I'll just throw over it. No issue. Sometimes it's just in my passenger seat back pocket.
My insurance and registration are clipped up on the sun visor.

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[babalou]

Suggest she get her shine box instead?

well, he did fvck her