DC Public Transportation Carry Ban Lawsuit

[Sunrise]

Yes, I appreciate you digging them out for us.

And that’s why I think he will play coy and come back with “look at those Christian Nationalists and their outrage to my little gag” schtick.

Guess we will find out.

He's been permanently archived by the Internet and X.

No way to escape from it.

The product has been irrevocably tainted forever. Exactly what he and Google deserved.

 

[RFBfromDE]

Obviously has job security at Google.

Unless Musk buys it!

 

[Ismee]

Thursday, February 29, 2024

60 notice Notice of Supplemental Authority Thu 02/29 3:16 PM NOTICE OF SUPPLEMENTAL AUTHORITY by GREGORY T. ANGELO, CAMERON M. ERICKSON, ROBERT M. MILLER, TYLER YZAGUIRRE(Lyon, George)

Att: 1 Exhibit Fouts v. Bonta

 

[Ismee]

Tuesday, April 09, 2024

61 notice Notice of Supplemental Authority Tue 04/09 12:24 PM NOTICE OF SUPPLEMENTAL AUTHORITY by GREGORY T. ANGELO, CAMERON M. ERICKSON, ROBERT M. MILLER, TYLER YZAGUIRRE(Lyon, George)

Att: 1 Exhibit Nastri v. Dykes

Continue to Create Account

 

[Sunrise]

Still waiting on a decision on "standing" from the District Court....

 

[Sunrise]

Check this out:

Committee Approves FY25 Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act

Washington, D.C. – Today, the House Appropriations Committee met to consider the Fiscal Year 2025 Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act. The measure was approved by the Committee with a vote of 33 to 24.

appropriations.house.gov

June 13, 2024 Press Release

Washington, D.C. – Today, the House Appropriations Committee met to consider the Fiscal Year 2025 Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act. The measure was approved by the Committee with a vote of 33 to 24.

…..

• Exercises much-needed oversight of the District of Columbia (D.C.) by:
  
  • Continuing to prohibit D.C. from using funds for abortions and rejecting the President’s proposal to allow local funds for abortion.
  • Retaining the conscience clause on any D.C. contraceptive requirement.
  • Prohibiting funding to carry out the Reproductive Health Nondiscrimination Act of 2014.
  • Repealing D.C.’s assisted suicide legalization law.
  • Banning D.C.’s harmful and enabling needle exchange program.
  • Prohibiting non-citizens from voting in D.C. elections.
  • Permitting concealed carry in D.C. and the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority.
  • Prohibiting D.C. from carrying out the Comprehensive Policing and Justice Reform Amendment Act of 2022.

Wow. Would love to see this throw it in DC’s face, but I can imagine that a decision in our favor by a Court would be preferable for the long term.

 

[Afrikeber]

RE: House Appropriations Committee

So for clarification CCW is legit within Metro transit and bus?

 

[Sunrise]

RE: House Appropriations Committee

So for clarification CCW is legit within Metro transit and bus?

CCW is currently illegal on Metro/Bus in DC.

There’s currently a lawsuit (Angelo v. DC) against DC on this for which a ruling is pending.

This action, if successful, by House Appropriations would be an end run (pursuant to Congress’ Oversight of DC) around DC’s current prohibition on CCW on Metro/Bus.

 

[Bob A]

Washington, D.C. – Today, the House Appropriations Committee met to consider the Fiscal Year 2025 Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act. The measure was approved by the Committee with a vote of 33 to 24

• Exercises much-needed oversight of the District of Columbia (D.C.) by:
  
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  • Permitting concealed carry in D.C. and the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority.

The "and" seems important; DC already has CC via a permit (which MPDC makes extremely difficult, impeding the applicant at every step). How would "permitting concealed carry in D.C." be affected? Obvious answer would be ConCarry, but that's pretty much a pipe dream.

 

[Sunrise]

The "and" seems important; DC already has CC via a permit (which MPDC makes extremely difficult, impeding the applicant at every step). How would "permitting concealed carry in D.C." be affected? Obvious answer would be ConCarry, but that's pretty much a pipe dream.

Good point. I haven’t seen the actual Amendment text, but WUSA9 did a story on it:

Expect 'theater' in House Appropriations hearing, says Maryland Rep Steny Hoyer

FBI headquarters project and "anti DC home rule riders" will be discussed in Thursday's House Appropriations Committee markup.

www.wusa9.com

Who knows if they got this right…,

 

[Sunrise]

The "and" seems important; DC already has CC via a permit (which MPDC makes extremely difficult, impeding the applicant at every step). How would "permitting concealed carry in D.C." be affected? Obvious answer would be ConCarry, but that's pretty much a pipe dream.

Aha... Found it!

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/AP/AP00/20240613/117435/BILLS-118-FC-AP-FY2025-AP00-FY25FSGGFullCommitteeMark.pdf

Page 214:

SEC. 826. An individual who has a valid weapons carry permit from any United States state or territory may possess and carry a concealed handgun in the area governed by the District of Columbia and Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority.

Wouldn't that be something if this double whammy actually went through: National Reciprocity for Carry in DC and WMATA Carry.

(I assume this would only affect WMATA Carry in DC, and not MD or VA? IIRC, you can't carry on WMATA in MD, but you can in VA?)

 

[Bob A]

Aha... Found it!

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/AP/AP00/20240613/117435/BILLS-118-FC-AP-FY2025-AP00-FY25FSGGFullCommitteeMark.pdf

Page 214:

SEC. 826. An individual who has a valid weapons carry permit from any United States state or territory may possess and carry a concealed handgun in the area governed by the District of Columbia and Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority.

Wouldn't that be something if this double whammy actually went through: National Reciprocity for Carry in DC and WMATA Carry.

(I assume this would only affect WMATA Carry in DC, and not MD or VA? IIRC, you can't carry on WMATA in MD, but you can in VA?)

The Camel's Nose is poking under the edge of the Reciprocity tent!

 

[Sunrise]

The Camel's Nose is poking under the edge of the Reciprocity tent!

Haha. Indeed!

If it's made it to House Appropriations, it's inevitable that it's going to go through at some point... either now, or in the future when Republicans also control the Senate and The White House.

National Reciprocity for DC Carry/WMATA Carry under Congress' Authority is a pretty big deal. Glad somebody got this elevated and included.

Hopefully the Court provides a favorable ruling for WMATA Carry as well, but I'm getting the feeling it'll have to go back to the Supreme Court for "Bruen 2.0". That will hopefully deliver this on a national scale. Ridiculous it has to come to that.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Aha... Found it!

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/AP/AP00/20240613/117435/BILLS-118-FC-AP-FY2025-AP00-FY25FSGGFullCommitteeMark.pdf

Page 214:



(I assume this would only affect WMATA Carry in DC, and not MD or VA? IIRC, you can't carry on WMATA in MD, but you can in VA?)

Actually you can .

The " Mass Transit " provisions of SB-1 are written to apply to ( transportation modes ) , stations , and facilities under the auspices of MTA .

WMATA is its own Congressionally Chartered , Independent, Multi Jurisdiction Transit Authority . It is Not subject to , or affiliated with MTA .

WMATA Policy for the General Public / Riding Public is to follow the laws of the particular Jurisdiction where physically located at the time .

 

[Sunrise]

Actually you can .

The " Mass Transit " provisions of SB-1 are written to apply to ( transportation modes ) , stations , and facilities under the auspices of MTA .

WMATA is its own Congressionally Chartered , Independent, Multi Jurisdiction Transit Authority . It is Not subject to , or affiliated with MTA .

WMATA Policy for the General Public / Riding Public is to follow the laws of the particular Jurisdiction where physically located at the time .

Thanks. It's so damn confusing on this.

Nothing like having legal carrier riders taking their firearms out of the case after they cross Friendship Heights, effectively brandishing them in public and then loading/holstering them for concealment.

 

[Sunrise]

Is anything happening on this lawsuit?

 

[Sunrise]

Just saw some recent updates on this:

ANGELO et al v. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA (1:22-cv-01878), District Of Columbia District Court

ANGELO et al v. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA (1:22-cv-01878), District Of Columbia District Court, Filed: 06/30/2022

www.pacermonitor.com

Wednesday, September 04, 2024
65		appeal Transmission of Notice of Appeal and Docket Sheet to USCA Wed 09/04 11:49 AM Transmission of the Notice of Appeal, Order Appealed (Memorandum Opinion), and Docket Sheet to US Court of Appeals. The Court of Appeals fee was paid re64 Notice of Appeal to DC Circuit Court,. (znmw)
Tuesday, September 03, 2024
64		appeal Notice of Appeal to DC Circuit Tue 09/03 3:18 PM NOTICE OF APPEAL TO DC CIRCUIT COURT as to63 Order,62 Order on Motion to Dismiss,,, by GREGORY T. ANGELO, CAMERON M. ERICKSON, ROBERT M. MILLER, TYLER YZAGUIRRE. Filing fee $ 605, receipt number ADCDC-11132129. Fee Status: Fee Paid. Parties have been notified. (Wenger, Edward)

Guess it finally made to the Appeal?

 

[Sunrise]

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www.courthousenews.com

Carter appointee.
Clinton appointee.
Biden appointee.

Of course they did.

 

[owldo]

Actually you can .

The " Mass Transit " provisions of SB-1 are written to apply to ( transportation modes ) , stations , and facilities under the auspices of MTA .

WMATA is its own Congressionally Chartered , Independent, Multi Jurisdiction Transit Authority . It is Not subject to , or affiliated with MTA .

WMATA Policy for the General Public / Riding Public is to follow the laws of the particular Jurisdiction where physically located at the time .

I think we have a problem Houston ...
On Friday, U.S. District Judge Iain Johnston ruled in favor of four plaintiffs who brought a 2022 lawsuit, arguing that a portion of the state's concealed carry law, prohibiting holders of concealed carry licenses to bring guns on public buses or trains violated their Second Amendment rights. ... 8 hours ago

Judge allows Concealed Carry On Illinois Public Transportation

 

[Sunrise]

People still hopping over or sandwiching through?

I’ve actually noticed a big difference.

FWIW: