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  • Ecestu

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    Dec 11, 2016
    1,377
    I use the crock pot for soups and stews to do that.
    You cook it bone-in for neck, pelvis, shank, etc?
    Aftermath of pressure cooking added:
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    (probably could have browned the rounds a little more...)
     
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    Derwood

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    Jun 2, 2011
    1,059
    DC area
    Is there a CWD concern with eating the neck? I know how tasty those cuts are with lamb so I'm always tempted to eat it, but at some point I heard I need to avoid the spine.

    For recipes -- try adding some red wine, Old Bay, butter and apricot preserves to the tough cuts when slow cooking. It's a good combo!
     

    outrider58

    Eats His Bacon Raw
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    Jul 29, 2014
    48,617
    Is there a CWD concern with eating the neck? I know how tasty those cuts are with lamb so I'm always tempted to eat it, but at some point I heard I need to avoid the spine.

    For recipes -- try adding some red wine, Old Bay, butter and apricot preserves to the tough cuts when slow cooking. It's a good combo!
    I think the issue is with spinal fluid. If you bone it out, you would be fine.
     

    Archeryrob

    Undecided on a great many things
    Mar 7, 2013
    2,825
    Washington Co. - Fairplay
    I either grind the neck, or cut it off into flat roasts. A doe is one longer one for each side and a good buck two medium roast on each side. Yes it is tougher. Thaw it out, stab the she-it out of it with a fork, put 6 oz each apple cider vinegar and vegetable oil into gallon ziploc bag. 2 tbsps. each of brown sugar and soy sauce. Marinade for a while and next day or many hours. Tie into tied roast and slow grill to 135 IT
     

    lazarus

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    Jun 23, 2015
    13,498
    I think the issue is with spinal fluid. If you bone it out, you would be fine.
    That is my understanding. Spinal fluid and brain matter should be avoided. So any part of the spine or head should be boned out if consuming.

    On the neck there are a pair on stronger muscles running the whole way up and down the neck that are fairly thick. I liken them to baby back straps. They seem to cook up reasonably tender too.

    A neck roast is great. But per that concern. CWD is probably not contagious to humans. I’d rather do some diligence to reduce the risk of even being exposed.
     

    rgramjet

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    Jan 25, 2009
    2,863
    Howard County
    Is there a CWD concern with eating the neck? I know how tasty those cuts are with lamb so I'm always tempted to eat it, but at some point I heard I need to avoid the spine.

    For recipes -- try adding some red wine, Old Bay, butter and apricot preserves to the tough cuts when slow cooking. It's a good combo!

    I love neck roast. Braised slowly until the meat falls off the bone. Makes good pulled bbq too.

    Does cooking kill the CWD or does temp not affect it?
     

    DeadInside

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    Jan 27, 2022
    348
    SOMD
    From the DNR website where there is also additional info;

    Deer Hunters and CWD​

    Concerns over CWD should not stop hunters from enjoying the hunting season or any venison they may acquire. CWD has not been shown to be transmissible to humans. However, it is recommended that hunters field-dressing or butchering deer should take the same precautions as they would to protect against other pathogens or diseases. It is also recommended to not consume venison from infected deer.

    The following common-sense precautionary measures are recommended for the safe handling, field-dressing and home processing of venison:

    • Avoid shooting or handling a deer that appears sick.
    • Wear latex or rubber gloves when field-dressing or butchering deer.
    • Remove all internal organs.
    • Remove the meat from the bones and spinal column if home processing a deer
    • Do not use household knives or utensils when field-dressing or home processing a deer.
    • Avoid cutting through bones or the spinal column (backbone).
    • If you saw off antlers or through a bone, or if you sever the spinal column with a knife, be sure to disinfect these tools prior to using them for the butchering or removal of meat.
    • Always wash hands and instruments thoroughly after dressing and processing game meat.
    • Use a 50/50 solution of household chlorine bleach and water to disinfect tools and work surfaces. Wipe down counters and let them dry; soak knives for one hour.
     

    GutPile

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    Jul 4, 2016
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    I used to saw the head off at the base of the neck but have stopped doing that lately. Just bone out the neck meat/straps/inner loins and quarters are already off anyway.
     

    Brickman301

    Active Member
    Mar 23, 2015
    2,415
    FREDERICK, MD
    Shot this big doe last Saturday on a crop damage permit. 47/50 at about 40 yards she never knew what hit her.
    I’m done until the regular season starts this fall. 129A8043-7F36-48C4-9404-56ABFD12CEAB.jpeg
     

    StantonCree

    Watch your beer
    Jan 23, 2011
    23,923
    Putting this here cuz it’s about deer. The deer behind my house are eating the bamboo. I’ve never seen that before. We used to have this old Vietnamese guy who planted the bamboo for his garden and he would trim it back so it didn’t spread. He passed away and the lady who bought his house has no idea how to tend to it. Thankfully it’s on the other side of the creek
     

    outrider58

    Eats His Bacon Raw
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    Jul 29, 2014
    48,617
    Putting this here cuz it’s about deer. The deer behind my house are eating the bamboo. I’ve never seen that before. We used to have this old Vietnamese guy who planted the bamboo for his garden and he would trim it back so it didn’t spread. He passed away and the lady who bought his house has no idea how to tend to it. Thankfully it’s on the other side of the creek
    Bamboo is a rhizome. It spreads by the roots. You need a ground barrier to keep it from spreading. Otherwise, you are just clipping fingernails.
     

    lazarus

    Active Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,498
    Bamboo is a rhizome. It spreads by the roots. You need a ground barrier to keep it from spreading. Otherwise, you are just clipping fingernails.
    Yeah there is a big bamboo forest on my neighbors’ properties. No clue who planted it. It’s probably been growing for 20+ years. The deer love to bed down in it. Bedding time I can reliably flush 3-6 out of there. Most mornings and evenings that’s where the deer come out of to go feed*. I’d guess it covers an acre to an acre and a half. It runs along the creek line starting just off the corner of my property down about 3 properties and maybe 80ft wide at its widest (about 600ft long).

    *I get others likely from the park or elsewhere in the neighborhood that take trails across my property around the same time of day, but these deer I am sure spend their day in there.

    PS if you want it gone the only option is rip out all of it. Emphasis on rip. Then you’ll probably be playing whack a mole with some of what you missed for a few years. Something like the forest on my neighbors’ properties *shudder*. For all intents and purposes it is a permanent fixture now.
     

    thedutchtouch

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    Feb 14, 2023
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    I love neck roast. Braised slowly until the meat falls off the bone. Makes good pulled bbq too.

    Does cooking kill the CWD or does temp not affect it?
    Cooking doesn't do anything unfortunately, you have to hear prions to like 900+ for a while to denature/destroy them.
    Putting this here cuz it’s about deer. The deer behind my house are eating the bamboo. I’ve never seen that before. We used to have this old Vietnamese guy who planted the bamboo for his garden and he would trim it back so it didn’t spread. He passed away and the lady who bought his house has no idea how to tend to it. Thankfully it’s on the other side of the creek
    Kicking over or mowing the shoots (or cutting and eating them apparently) in may/June will stop the spread but not kill back the bamboo. Killing it back takes a few years of a modified version of this- let the shoot grow until it is full height and branches out, and then cut it down before it puts out leaves. This takes energy from the plant but doesn't let it regain any through photosynthesis. A few rounds of this (meaning a few years of repetition each spring) and the rhizomes will die back. Or she can try to dig em out, but good luck with that.
     

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