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  • 67temp

    Active Member
    Jun 25, 2009
    901
    Gettysburg, PA
    2's better than none! How many do you typically try to get a year?
    The past three years I've been under 5 a year. Normally average 8-14. Best year was 22 deer. I stopped counting the total once I passed 200.

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    Ecestu

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 11, 2016
    1,406
    When bow hunting, always aim for the heart. That way, if they "jump" the string, you'll usually end up with a lung shot(and hopefully a double lung shot). ;)
    That's where I was aiming. This buck (like most deer) had unbelievable reflexes. From the sound of the arrow coming off the string, the buck was able to go from broadside (facing my left) to 90 degrees showing his ass in under second. The reason I thought I initially had a hit was because the deer took off at that 90 degrees, veered to the left then jetted to the right. What actually happened was when it veered to the left, the sound of the arrow hitting the ground sent him in the opposite direction. WinTactualF??? :banghead:
     

    outrider58

    Eats Bacon Raw
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 29, 2014
    49,508
    That's where I was aiming. This buck (like most deer) had unbelievable reflexes. From the sound of the arrow coming off the string, the buck was able to go from broadside (facing my left) to 90 degrees showing his ass in under second. The reason I thought I initially had a hit was because the deer took off at that 90 degrees, veered to the left then jetted to the right. What actually happened was when it veered to the left, the sound of the arrow hitting the ground sent him in the opposite direction. WinTactualF??? :banghead:
    What was the range of the shot?
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,630
    Swing and a miss. Clean arrow. Lesson learned: never underestimate the amount of time it takes for an arrow to reach its intended target.
    On a personal level that’s why I try to keep my shots under 30yds. Under 20 is nice. Some is I have an advantage that most of the presentations on my property make that possible. I might take a shit on a big deer at out to 40yds but no further. A really fast crossbow would up that, it crossbows are noisy. I can get a bolt in to the vitals pretty reliably out to 50yds, 60 on a calm day with my 390fps Xbow.

    But deer can move a lot in the more than half a second between he time I decide to pull the trigger and the time that bolt arrives (Just over half a second flight time, it is slowing over those 180ft, a quarter second if you are lucky to squeeze the trigger and the limbs launch the bolt. It’s probably more like a full second).

    Especially because their nervous systems are wired to jump at loud Noises. Really close they don’t have time to react. But start moving out to 30yds and further and they have time to start moving in reaction to the string slap. The further the more they are likely to have moved. It’s one perk of a vertical bow is they are a lot quieter and deer aren’t nearly as likely to react to a compound bow losing. They may react to the movement though.
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,630
    Swing and a miss. Clean arrow. Lesson learned: never underestimate the amount of time it takes for an arrow to reach its intended target.
    On a personal level that’s why I try to keep my shots under 30yds. Under 20 is nice. Some is I have an advantage that most of the presentations on my property make that possible. I might take a shit on a big deer at out to 40yds but no further. A really fast crossbow would up that, it crossbows are noisy. I can get a bolt in to the vitals pretty reliably out to 50yds, 60 on a calm day with my 390fps Xbow.

    But deer can move a lot in the more than half a second between he time I decide to pull the trigger and the time that bolt arrives (Just over half a second flight time, it is slowing over those 180ft, a quarter second if you are lucky to squeeze the trigger and the limbs launch the bolt. It’s probably more like a full second).

    Especially because their nervous systems are wired to jump at loud Noises. Really close they don’t have time to react. But start moving out to 30yds and further and they have time to start moving in reaction to the string slap. The further the more they are likely to have moved. It’s one perk of a vertical bow is they are a lot quieter and deer aren’t nearly as likely to react to a compound bow losing. They may react to the movement though.
     

    Ecestu

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 11, 2016
    1,406
    so putting a thermal on a crossbow is genius. you my friend have figured it out.
    That didn't work out very well. Lol. You can't see things like arrow stopping branches and tiny trees. Sent that one back, got the clip on/monocular version instead. Works much better for my current application.
     

    Ecestu

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 11, 2016
    1,406
    Yeah, that's a bit of a stretch, sound wise. Especially if it was a calm, quiet day.
    Probably. Usually the sound alerts the deer, but I haven't seen one move that drastically before now. At 350 fps, I wouldn't figure it would have been an issue.
     

    gtodave

    Member
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 14, 2007
    13,905
    Mt Airy
    60 yards.
    I took a shot at about that distance once. I shot from inside my house, and the deer never heard a sound. But she took two casual steps after I let it fly, and that was enough for the arrow to pass behind her by a foot or more. That's how long it takes that arrow to get that far. It isn't an ethical shot on a deer that can move. If she's bedded down or otherwise locked in place, that's another thing. But for a deer on the hoof, I'm maxing out at 35 yards.
     

    Ecestu

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 11, 2016
    1,406
    At 60 yards?

    How many deer you taken that far?
    None. Not sure how that makes it unethical. From reading a bowhunting forum, the western bowhunters consider that (and longer) the norm with slower bows. Will I try from that distance again this season? Probably.
     

    lx1x

    Peanut Gallery
    Apr 19, 2009
    26,992
    Maryland
    None. Not sure how that makes it unethical. From reading a bowhunting forum, the western bowhunters consider that (and longer) the norm with slower bows. Will I try from that distance again this season? Probably.

    So.. you haven't taken a deer that far. And you taking shots?

    Do you even practice shooting at that distance? How accurate are you?

    Don't care what "bowhunters forum" can do.. I'm asking what you can. Effective range you can do. That's the ethical question.
     

    Ecestu

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 11, 2016
    1,406
    So.. you haven't taken a deer that far. And you taking shots?

    Do you even practice shooting at that distance? How accurate are you?

    Don't care what "bowhunters forum" can do.. I'm asking what you can. Effective range you can do. That's the ethical question.
    Lol. M'kay.
     

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