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  • dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    11,912
    I'm not throwing a temper tantrum, but thank you for playing.

    I have no sympathy for state that has had their boots on our necks and now continues to drag through a process that has demonstrably better in other states.

    FL didn't take this long and they had a hurricane in the middle of people applying. They didn't use it as an excuse.

    MD doesn't like you armed. I don't care if they like it, it is the RIGHT to KEEP and BEAR arms. Bruen reaffirmed that. I expect them to get this sorted.
    You keep blaming MSP, when in point of fact, MSP has removed what barriers they are administratively able to. You want "them to sort it out" then get off your ass and put the time, in Annapolis, where it is needed, it really is that simple.
     

    BooneHill

    Junior Member
    Nov 22, 2022
    5
    Maryland
    Application #: 22HGP0960XX
    Submitted: 9/26/22
    Accepted: 9/28/22
    NICS: 11/23/22
    Approved: 11/29/22 @ 1745
    Permit Number: 22HGP-0981XX
    In Hand: ???
     

    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    19,535
    I wouldn't piss on Maryland if it were on fire.

    Maryland DESPISES guns

    But Bruen gave us Shall Issue, it did NOT eliminate the scheme.

    Maryland dropped references, and interviews, but not checking 65,000 databases.

    Sucks to be us, but it sucks less post-Bruen

    eruby@packing_a_.40.com/FabJewlous!!
    An interesting statistic would be of the multiple databases that are legislatively mandated to be checked just how many people who are denied are because of each database per thousands of applicants checked? And how many denials are shown on only a single database so they might get approved if that database was not checked?

    If they only did a NICS check how many applications would be improperly approved?
     

    LAC_MD

    Member
    Oct 18, 2022
    264
    Towson
    I wouldn't piss on Maryland if it were on fire.

    Maryland DESPISES guns

    But Bruen gave us Shall Issue, it did NOT eliminate the scheme.

    Maryland dropped references, and interviews, but not checking 65,000 databases.

    Sucks to be us, but it sucks less post-Bruen

    eruby@packing_a_.40.com/FabJewlous!!
    I would question any denials of a person who can purchase a gun but not carry it.
     

    LAC_MD

    Member
    Oct 18, 2022
    264
    Towson
    An interesting statistic would be of the multiple databases that are legislatively mandated to be checked just how many people who are denied are because of each database per thousands of applicants checked? And how many denials are shown on only a single database so they might get approved if that database was not checked?

    If they only did a NICS check how many applications would be improperly approved?
    Same question how many can buy a gun and keep it at home but not carry it? I would argue anyone who can legally possess one at home should be able to legally carry one in public…
     

    mhasel

    Member
    Mar 13, 2015
    144
    Sorry, think I forgot to post an update last night, please keep updating the online form at: https://forms.gle/xrc73LrBEsABSLXx9

    AcceptedNICSApprovedReceived in handPermit number (please XX last 2 digits)Accpt to NICSNICS to ApprovedAccpt to ApprovedApproved to Received
    9/7/2022​
    11/4/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    22hgp-0889xx
    58​
    6​
    64​
    9/7/2022​
    11/4/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    22hgp-088xxx
    58​
    6​
    64​
    6​
    9/7/2022​
    11/4/2022​
    58​
    9/8/2022​
    11/6/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    59​
    4​
    63​
    9/8/2022​
    11/7/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    0858XX
    60​
    3​
    63​
    6​
    9/8/2022​
    11/7/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    22HGP-0897XX
    60​
    7​
    67​
    9/9/2022​
    11/7/2022​
    11/11/2022​
    22HGP-0893xx
    59​
    4​
    63​
    9/9/2022​
    11/7/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    22HGP-0899XX
    59​
    7​
    66​
    9/9/2022​
    11/8/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    22HGP-0899XX
    60​
    6​
    66​
    9/11/2022​
    11/8/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    22HGP-0902XX
    58​
    6​
    64​
    9/11/2022​
    11/9/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    22HGP-0903XX
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/12/2022​
    11/8/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    22HGP0869xx
    57​
    7​
    64​
    9/12/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    22-HGP-0908xx
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/12/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    22HGP-09098xx
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/12/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/19/2022​
    xxxxxxxxx
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/12/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/19/2022​
    22HGP-0910xx
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/12/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    22hgp-0908xx
    59​
    5​
    64​
    8​
    9/12/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    22HGP-0914XX
    59​
    6​
    65​
    9/12/2022​
    11/11/2022​
    60​
    9/12/2022​
    11/13/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/19/2022​
    22HGP-0912xx
    62​
    2​
    64​
    9/13/2022​
    11/8/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    22HGP-919XX
    56​
    9​
    65​
    9/13/2022​
    11/9/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    22HGP-0917xx
    57​
    7​
    64​
    9/13/2022​
    11/9/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    11/25/2022​
    22HGP-0917XX
    57​
    7​
    64​
    9​
    9/13/2022​
    11/11/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/13/2022​
    11/11/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    22HGP-0915XX
    59​
    9/13/2022​
    11/12/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    22HGP0918xx
    60​
    5​
    65​
    9/13/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    62​
    9/14/2022​
    11/7/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    22HGP-0925XX
    54​
    10​
    64​
    9/14/2022​
    11/7/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/26/2022​
    22HGP-0925xx
    54​
    10​
    64​
    9​
    9/14/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    61​
    9/15/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    60​
    9/15/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    11/25/2022​
    22hgp-0927xx
    61​
    3​
    64​
    7​
    9/15/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/19/2022​
    22HGP-09317x
    61​
    4​
    65​
    9/15/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    11/25/2022​
    22HGP-0927XX
    64​
    3​
    67​
    4​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    22HGP-0934XX
    60​
    6​
    66​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    22HGP-0937xx
    60​
    6​
    66​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    11/26/2022​
    22HGP-0937xx
    60​
    6​
    66​
    5​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    11/28/2022​
    22HGP-0933XX
    60​
    6​
    66​
    7​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    60​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    60​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    60​
    9/16/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    22HGP-0938XX
    61​
    5​
    66​
    9/16/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    11/25/2022​
    22HGP-0938XX
    61​
    5​
    66​
    4​
    9/16/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    11/25/2022​
    22HGP-0938XX
    61​
    5​
    66​
    4​
    9/16/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    22HGP087XXX
    61​
    9/18/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    22HGP-0942XX
    59​
    6​
    65​
    9/19/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    22HGP0912XX
    58​
    6​
    64​
    9/19/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    58​
    9/19/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    59​
    4​
    63​
    9/19/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    22HGP-0943XX
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/20/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    22hgp-0949××
    58​
    5​
    63​
    9/20/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    22HGP0918xx
    58​
    5​
    63​
    9/20/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    58​
    9/21/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    22HGP-0949XX
    55​
    7​
    62​
    9/21/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    55​
    9/21/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    22hgp-0952**
    57​
    6​
    63​
    9/21/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    22hgp0893xx
    57​
    9/21/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    22HGP09====
    58​
    5​
    63​
    9/21/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    22HGP09====
    58​
    9/21/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    58​
    9/23/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    22HGP-0955xx
    56​
    5​
    61​
    9/23/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    56​
    9/24/2022​
    11/19/2022​
    11/27/2022​
    22hgp-096xxx
    56​
    8​
    64​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    11/27/2022​
    21HGP0244XX
    56​
    7​
    63​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    11/27/2022​
    22HGP-0965xx
    56​
    7​
    63​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    11/28/2022​
    22HGP-0967XX
    56​
    8​
    64​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    56​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    56​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    21HGP0244XX
    56​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    56​
    9/26/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    11/28/2022​
    22HGP-0973xx
    56​
    7​
    63​
    9/26/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    56​
    9/26/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    11/28/2022​
    22HGP-0973xx
    57​
    6​
    63​
    9/26/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    57​
    9/27/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/29/2022​
    22HGP0960XX
    51​
    12​
    63​
    9/27/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    22HGP0960XX
    51​
    9/27/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    55​
    9/27/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    11/29/2022​
    22HGP-0974XX
    56​
    7​
    63​
    9/28/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    11/29/2022​
    22HGP-0980XX
    56​
    6​
    62​
    9/28/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    56​
    9/28/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    56​
    10/1/2022​
    11/25/2022​
    22HGP0974XX
    55​
    10/3/2022​
    11/26/2022​
    54​
    10/3/2022​
    11/26/2022​
    54​
    10/4/2022​
    11/28/2022​
    55​
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    53,802
    Not in Montgomery any longer
    We are past 50000 since Bruen

    I have never seen a statute that mandates that 15 data bases be checked. IIRC the statute says based “on an investigation”

    I see no statute compelling MSP to check 15 databases.

    I think MSP does this without a legal requirement. BTW I did not look in COMAR

    The only thing in the statute is submitting prints to CJIS and FBI and “conducting an investigation”
     
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    LAC_MD

    Member
    Oct 18, 2022
    264
    Towson
    We are past 50000 since Bruen

    I have never seen a statute that mandates that 15 data bases be checked. IIRC the statute says based “on an investigation”

    I see no statute compelling MSP to check 15 databases.

    I think MSP does this without a legal requirement. BTW I did not look in COMAR

    The only thing in the statute is submitting prints to CJIS and FBI and “conducting an investigation”
    Not required by my reading https://www.law.cornell.edu/regulations/maryland/COMAR-29-03-02-03

    B. Investigation Criteria. The following areas will be a part of the investigation of every applicant and will be considered by the Secretary in determining whether a permit will be issued:
    (1) Age of the applicant;
    (2) Occupation, profession, or employment of the applicant;
    (3) Verification of the applicant's qualifications;
    (4) Verification of the information supplied by the applicant in the application;
    (5) Information received from personal references and other persons interviewed;
    (6) Information received from business or employment references as may be necessary in the discretion of the investigator;
    (7) Criminal record of applicant, including any juvenile record for an applicant younger than 30 years old;
    (8) Medical history of applicant as it may pertain to the applicant's fitness to carry, wear, or transport a handgun;
    (9) Psychiatric or psychological background of the applicant as it may pertain to the applicant's fitness to carry, wear, or transport a handgun;
    (10) The applicant's propensity for violence or instability which could reasonably render the applicant's wearing, carrying, or transporting of a handgun a danger to the applicant or to others;
    (11) The applicant's use of intoxicating beverages and drugs;
    (12) The reasons given by the applicant for carrying, wearing, or transporting a handgun, and whether those reasons are good and substantial; and
    (13) Whether the permit is necessary as a reasonable precaution for the applicant against apprehended danger.
     

    LAC_MD

    Member
    Oct 18, 2022
    264
    Towson
    Much of that has been declared unconstitutional by Bruen.

    I’m sure it will be updated.
    I took a crack at the revised version…

    B. Investigation Criteria. The following areas will be a part of the investigation of every applicant and will be considered by the Secretary in determining whether a permit will be issued:
    (1) Age of the applicant;
    (2) Criminal record of applicant, including any juvenile record for an applicant younger than 30 years old;
    (3) Medical history of applicant as it may pertain to the applicant's fitness to carry, wear, or transport a handgun;
    (4) Psychiatric or psychological background of the applicant as it may pertain to the applicant's fitness to carry, wear, or transport a handgun;
    (5) The applicant's propensity for violence or instability which could reasonably render the applicant's wearing, carrying, or transporting of a handgun a danger to the applicant or to others;
    (6) The applicant's use of intoxicating beverages and drugs;
     

    wfm12273

    Junior Member
    Oct 20, 2022
    2
    20874
    Application #: 22HGP1072XX
    Accepted: 10/26/2022
    NICS: 12/12/2022
    Approved: ?
    Permit Number: ?
    In Hand: ?
     
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