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  • Sundazes

    Team Sub 28. Former 365
    MDS Supporter
    Nov 13, 2006
    16,749
    Arkham
    That doesn’t explain the permit numbers being out of sequence.
    Again, we have ZERO confirmation from the MSP that any of the numbering systems are sequential. It would make sense, but we just don’t know.
    We do believe the application numbers are generated at the time you begin one, not submit it. That explains the wide differential in app numbers.
    Look back through the thread. It’s only a gazillion posts.
     

    LAC_MD

    Member
    Oct 18, 2022
    246
    Towson
    Again, we have ZERO confirmation from the MSP that any of the numbering systems are sequential. It would make sense, but we just don’t know.
    We do believe the application numbers are generated at the time you begin one, not submit it. That explains the wide differential in app numbers.
    Look back through the thread. It’s only a gazillion posts.
    I agree this was about the permit numbers being askew…
     

    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    19,462
    People have frequently confused Application numbers and Permit numbers and miss posted in this thread.
    "Look back through the thread. It’s only a gazillion posts."

    I have looked at every post in this thread since I started it, all 8,702 posts so take my word for it if you don't want to look at a gazillion posts. The vast majority of questions that are asked have also been answered multiple times. The process has been described as fully as we can tell from from the inputs that have been provided. No they don't send notifications about NICS checks.

    IMHO the Applications numbers are issued sequentially in order of the start of the application, the numbers start over each year when the first two digits change to reflect the year (there are applications that were started in 2021). The Permit numbers are also issued sequentially as they are approved, however since multiple people are processing and approving the applications the result is not as clear cut as the Application numbers, with the approvals there may be a short delays between similar applications (may be because they are batched differently, people work at different rates, one processors batch entered one day and the others the next day, etc)

    Back when this thread started, go back and look, people were providing much more information with their posts such as when they started their Application and when they submitted, in some cases including the time of day, they would also recap their previously posted data and include comments and notes with each new data point. There were fewer "I haven't gotten my XXXX yet." posts and people tried to keep this thread strictly for data and send people with questions and comments over to the Banter Thread to make data collection and analysis easier. As people started receiving their permits they started losing interest (I Got Mine) and the newer people joining this thread did not review what had gone before and started short cutting things and we now have the current thread as it is.
     

    mhasel

    Member
    Mar 13, 2015
    138
    Thanks to everyone for posting data the last few days, please keep it up: https://forms.gle/xrc73LrBEsABSLXx9


    AcceptedNICSApprovedReceived in handPermit number (please XX last 2 digits)Accpt to NICSNICS to ApprovedAccpt to ApprovedApproved to Received
    9/7/2022​
    11/4/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    22hgp-0889xx
    58​
    6​
    64​
    9/7/2022​
    11/4/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    22hgp-088xxx
    58​
    6​
    64​
    6​
    9/7/2022​
    11/4/2022​
    58​
    9/8/2022​
    11/6/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    59​
    4​
    63​
    9/8/2022​
    11/7/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    0858XX
    60​
    3​
    63​
    6​
    9/8/2022​
    11/7/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    22HGP-0897XX
    60​
    7​
    67​
    9/9/2022​
    11/7/2022​
    11/11/2022​
    22HGP-0893xx
    59​
    4​
    63​
    9/9/2022​
    11/7/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    22HGP-0899XX
    59​
    7​
    66​
    9/9/2022​
    11/8/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    22HGP-0899XX
    60​
    6​
    66​
    9/11/2022​
    11/8/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    22HGP-0902XX
    58​
    6​
    64​
    9/11/2022​
    11/9/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    22HGP-0903XX
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/12/2022​
    11/8/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    22HGP0869xx
    57​
    7​
    64​
    9/12/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    22-HGP-0908xx
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/12/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    22HGP-09098xx
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/12/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/19/2022​
    xxxxxxxxx
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/12/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/19/2022​
    22HGP-0910xx
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/12/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    22hgp-0908xx
    59​
    5​
    64​
    8​
    9/12/2022​
    11/10/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    22HGP-0914XX
    59​
    6​
    65​
    9/12/2022​
    11/11/2022​
    60​
    9/12/2022​
    11/13/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/19/2022​
    22HGP-0912xx
    62​
    2​
    64​
    9/13/2022​
    11/8/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    22HGP-919XX
    56​
    9​
    65​
    9/13/2022​
    11/9/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    22HGP-0917xx
    57​
    7​
    64​
    9/13/2022​
    11/9/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    11/25/2022​
    22HGP-0917XX
    57​
    7​
    64​
    9​
    9/13/2022​
    11/11/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/13/2022​
    11/11/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    22HGP-0915XX
    59​
    9/13/2022​
    11/12/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    22HGP0918xx
    60​
    5​
    65​
    9/13/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    62​
    9/14/2022​
    11/7/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    22HGP-0925XX
    54​
    10​
    64​
    9/14/2022​
    11/7/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/26/2022​
    22HGP-0925xx
    54​
    10​
    64​
    9​
    9/14/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    61​
    9/15/2022​
    11/14/2022​
    60​
    9/15/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/19/2022​
    22HGP-09317x
    61​
    4​
    65​
    9/15/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    11/25/2022​
    22HGP-0927XX
    64​
    3​
    67​
    4​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    22HGP-0934XX
    60​
    6​
    66​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    22HGP-0937xx
    60​
    6​
    66​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    11/26/2022​
    22HGP-0937xx
    60​
    6​
    66​
    5​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    60​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    60​
    9/16/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    60​
    9/16/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    22HGP-0938XX
    61​
    5​
    66​
    9/16/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    11/25/2022​
    22HGP-0938XX
    61​
    5​
    66​
    4​
    9/16/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    11/25/2022​
    22HGP-0938XX
    61​
    5​
    66​
    4​
    9/16/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    22HGP087XXX
    61​
    9/18/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    22HGP-0942XX
    59​
    6​
    65​
    9/19/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    22HGP0912XX
    58​
    6​
    64​
    9/19/2022​
    11/16/2022​
    58​
    9/19/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    59​
    4​
    63​
    9/19/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    22HGP-0943XX
    59​
    5​
    64​
    9/20/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    22hgp-0949××
    58​
    5​
    63​
    9/20/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    22HGP0918xx
    58​
    5​
    63​
    9/20/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    58​
    9/21/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    22HGP-0949XX
    55​
    7​
    62​
    9/21/2022​
    11/15/2022​
    55​
    9/21/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    22hgp-0952**
    57​
    6​
    63​
    9/21/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    22hgp0893xx
    57​
    9/21/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    22HGP09====
    58​
    5​
    63​
    9/21/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    22HGP09====
    58​
    9/21/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    58​
    9/23/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    22HGP-0955xx
    56​
    5​
    61​
    9/23/2022​
    11/18/2022​
    56​
    9/24/2022​
    11/19/2022​
    11/27/2022​
    22hgp-096xxx
    56​
    8​
    64​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    11/27/2022​
    21HGP0244XX
    56​
    7​
    63​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    11/27/2022​
    22HGP-0965xx
    56​
    7​
    63​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    56​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    56​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    21HGP0244XX
    56​
    9/25/2022​
    11/20/2022​
    56​
    9/26/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    56​
    9/26/2022​
    11/22/2022​
    57​
    9/27/2022​
    11/17/2022​
    22HGP0960XX
    51​
    9/27/2022​
    11/21/2022​
    55​
    9/28/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    56​
    9/28/2022​
    11/23/2022​
    56​
    10/1/2022​
    11/25/2022​
    22HGP0974XX
    55​
    10/3/2022​
    11/26/2022​
    54​
     

    Phoenix_1295

    Creature of Life and Fire
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 6, 2010
    935
    MD
    ~64 days from accept to approved has been holding for a few weeks. Looks like that will be the norm, for now.
     

    awajr

    Member
    Jul 11, 2010
    168
    Application Number: 22HGP0925xx
    Permit Number: 22HGP-0966xx
    Started: 9/19
    Submitted: 9/22 1:40 PM
    Accepted: 9/25 8:32 AM
    NICS: 11/20
    Approved: 11/28
    Card in Hand: ?
     

    Maki

    Junior Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jun 11, 2020
    49
    Odenton
    About how long does it take to go from Submitted to Accepted?
    I’m at 9 days without accepted. LGS told me last night they’re seeing ~14 days to accepted and agreed with the 65 days to approved, but also reminded me that MSP has 90 days for the whole process. I think there’s little point to worry about it, as I’m sure there has been an influx of applications.
     

    eruby

    Confederate Jew
    MDS Supporter
    I’m at 9 days without accepted. LGS told me last night they’re seeing ~14 days to accepted and agreed with the 65 days to approved, but also reminded me that MSP has 90 days for the whole process. I think there’s little point to worry about it, as I’m sure there has been an influx of applications.
    :thumbsup:

    If 1,000 people show up to the 1 hour photo, it's no longer the 1 hour photo.

    Everyone not a ne'er-do-well will get their permit, in due course.
     

    FrankZ

    Liberty = Responsibility
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 25, 2012
    2,576
    :thumbsup:

    If 1,000 people show up to the 1 hour photo, it's no longer the 1 hour photo.

    Everyone not a ne'er-do-well will get their permit, in due course.
    One hour photo doesn't have a statutory requirement to serve you in the hour.

    Isn't there a statutory requirement for MSP to finalize in 90 days?
     

    eruby

    Confederate Jew
    MDS Supporter
    One hour photo doesn't have a statutory requirement to serve you in the hour.

    Isn't there a statutory requirement for MSP to finalize in 90 days?
    Heavy sigh.

    Yes, there is a statutory requirement for 90 days.

    What I meant was, when there's a huge influx of people wanting anything, the processing time slows down, thus 1 - 3 days from submitted to accepted become 5 -15 days, or more.
     

    FrankZ

    Liberty = Responsibility
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 25, 2012
    2,576
    Heavy sigh.

    Yes, there is a statutory requirement for 90 days.

    What I meant was, when there's a huge influx of people wanting anything, the processing time slows down, thus 1 - 3 days from submitted to accepted become 5 -15 days, or more.
    Yes, of course. I get that. They have had their boot to our throats, we should not forget they have a duty to perform for us now. Especially since this is not something we should have to be burdened with.
     

    eruby

    Confederate Jew
    MDS Supporter
    Yes, of course. I get that. They have had their boot to our throats, we should not forget they have a duty to perform for us now. Especially since this is not something we should have to be burdened with.
    I'm not arguing against you, and I'm not siding with MSP.

    They can physically process apps only so fast (the jack-booted thugs).
     

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