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  • E.Shell

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    pbharvey

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    More like a didn't lose rather than a win. No one wants to shoot a couple of kids. Did they deserve it? Yes, play stupid games and all that. The guy who did it though? No doubt he's hating life right now waiting for the lawsuits and wondering if there was another way out instead of shooting the kids. He shot one holding a gun and one not holding a gun. Watch how that plays out. I'm glad he's OK and did what he had to do. I'm glad three kids won't be robbing anyone for at least another week. I'm just not feeling like I won anything.
     

    E.Shell

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    More like a didn't lose rather than a win. No one wants to shoot a couple of kids. Did they deserve it? Yes, play stupid games and all that. The guy who did it though? No doubt he's hating life right now waiting for the lawsuits and wondering if there was another way out instead of shooting the kids. He shot one holding a gun and one not holding a gun. Watch how that plays out. I'm glad he's OK and did what he had to do. I'm glad three kids won't be robbing anyone for at least another week. I'm just not feeling like I won anything.
    It is my understanding that an accomplice, armed or not, in a deadly force situation is considered to be a threat just as well the primary/obviously armed threat.
     

    wpage

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    Oct 17, 2022
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    Sounds like a good shoot. However, yes the crying moms and ambulance chasers will be after this poor slob for standing for his right.

    Tooth for a tooth, and law of the wild west seems more just than todays system.
     

    pbharvey

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    It is my understanding that an accomplice, armed or not, in a deadly force situation is considered to be a threat just as well the primary/obviously armed threat.
    You know that and I know that but can the guy's lawyer convince the jury?
    All and all I think it's a good shoot. My only point of being a Debbie Downer on this thread is that shooting someone creates a lot of problems and even though the guy "won" by not getting killed, maimed, or robbed, he's still in for a lot of trouble and expense.
     

    Bob A

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    Armed robbery, disparity of force. Good shoot.

    I have little sympathy for people holding up others at gunpoint. They're offering an exchange of life for money, with no guarantee that they won't kill you in any case.
     

    Bob A

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    You know that and I know that but can the guy's lawyer convince the jury?
    All and all I think it's a good shoot. My only point of being a Debbie Downer on this thread is that shooting someone creates a lot of problems and even though the guy "won" by not getting killed, maimed, or robbed, he's still in for a lot of trouble and expense.

    It's a tradeoff. Do you feel lucky? Wanna bet your life?
     

    md77

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    Aug 17, 2022
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    MoCo
    Too often these days these poor misguided property reallocation specialists are killing people who comply. Is it a win? The intended victim is still alive, so yes.
     

    Slackdaddy

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    Jan 1, 2019
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    I would say it is a win, for the most part.
    A better outcome would have been the permanent retirement of the assailants.

    They will be out before the city is finish "rolling" the victim.
    One of the "choir boys" will end up killing an innocent person.
     

    243hunter

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    Oct 26, 2012
    481
    Illinois
    You know that and I know that but can the guy's lawyer convince the jury?
    All and all I think it's a good shoot. My only point of being a Debbie Downer on this thread is that shooting someone creates a lot of problems and even though the guy "won" by not getting killed, maimed, or robbed, he's still in for a lot of trouble and expense.
    If the shoot is ruled self defense justified then IL law protects the victim from all civil lawsuits brought by any party connected to the perp. May still get sued but should be dismissed with prejudice.
     

    4g64loser

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    Jan 18, 2007
    6,538
    maryland
    Call me old fashion I think we should apply the 1800s laws to car theft.
    Ok. You are "old fashioned".

    I'm neither old nor fashionable but I agree with you. Any attempt at crime with force (carjacking requires force or the implied threat of it) should be met with equal or greater force.

    If I was lost and needed to ask directions or was trying to obtain permission to hunt someone's land, I would NOT approach the unknown contact I was going to solicit for directions or hunting permission with my three buddies. Approach alone. Announce identity and intentions early and clearly. The person will be less likely to perceive me (an unknown contact from their perspective) as a threat.
     

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