Bornwinner
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Looking to meet new people at AGC shoot
I seem to live there
I’ll have more time now since the weather is breaking to make club events like this Saturday we have a trap shoot and multi gun event and our cook out so I’m definitely going try to make thatStart off with your club's events. From there try the AGC events like trap or action shooting. You will find most AGC members are willing to help encourage new shooters or to get a new member more involved.
That is the way to go! Hope to see you at the AGC. Do not be a stranger!I’ll have more time now since the weather is breaking to make club events like this Saturday we have a trap shoot and multi gun event and our cook out so I’m definitely going try to make that
I heard about that. $150 increase! At least that is how much they want to increase the price. No way any increase is justified!Yet another range badge increase, when will it be enough?
Wow! That's quite a jump! Last time they wanted tobump the fee $50 the trustees voted to bump it $10/ year instead of all in one whack. That 15 year range badge is a hell of a bargain now!I heard about that. $150 increase! At least that is how much they want to increase the price. No way any increase is justified!
Please provide where you got this info. My BS detector is going off pretty hard.I heard about that. $150 increase! At least that is how much they want to increase the price. No way any increase is justified!
Try like 20 years. If you're not growing the badge cost with inflation, the range is going to have less and less money to operate.The new AGC president seems to be trying his best. But AGC has serious problems with governance and fiscal responsibility that go back 6 or 7 years before he took office.
This is... somewhat surprising to me, and I'd be interested in seeing how that math works out (esp if it's amortized capital costs that are driving the loss vs operations). But I will admit that event fees are on the cheap side, and I do sometimes wonder if the bays could be further monetized. They sit essentially empty most of the time except on weekends and weeknights. The biggest users other than weekend action shooting events are ARPC and SASP (which is AGC AS or MRPC depending on who's counting), and both of them are pretty much just using their own stuff.*snip* it went to build the action ranges and if you can believe the treasurer's reports the action ranges are losing money. So all the badge holders are subsidizing the non-badge holders / non-AGC members who use the action ranges. A sharp increase in guest fees has been proposed. Is there a plan to raise fees for the action shooting events so they are not a money drain on AGC?
Member democracy is not how the range management is set up. Ultimately, the charter clubs are the ones running the show, and I think you can make the argument that the trustee system isn't working terribly well in managing AGC. Until that changes, I wouldn't expect big improvements.Yes, inflation is real; but a little more transparency would go a long way. How about asking the rank and file badge holders what they want? Most have no idea what is going on or why. Fee increases are a lot easier to accept when you know the whole story and where the money is going and why.
I let my membership drop a while back for that same reason. I can also shoot where I live so I didn’t see the need. A few years later I joined a different club so I could shoot out to 300yrds. That’s farther from my house and about the same money as AGC is proposing so I think I’ll be back next year. AGC is a great club and there seems to be a real effort to make it better.I need to go shoot more @ the AGC. Especially if they're going to be increasing the range badge costs over the next few years.
I'm not getting my money's worth and that is nobody's fault but my own.
The premise that the range can run on volunteers and $100 a year memberships is crazy, IMHO. Property upkeep alone is a huge bill, and given some behaviors I've seen on that range, full-time RSOs are a necessity. When there's like four dudes on the range, yes, people can police themselves, but when it's 40, that's not realistic.My information came from our club president. The AGC has a long history of being fiscally irresponsible! Any increase is simply to pay for the waste due to mismanagement of the facility. We used to keep costs down by doing work through volunteers but, the rulers decided to pay instead of saving money. The board also violated the vote of the trustees when they failed to pay off the mortgages on the two properties previously purchased, in accordance with the vote of the board of trustees. I know this for a fact, since I was on the board at the time the vote to purchase was taken. The badge fees were supposed to be lowered once the mortgage was paid off but, again mismanagement ruled and the fee was not lowered. It was subsequently increased, without justification, to $200. Every project they have done has run over on cost due to mismanagement. There are those who would continue to support the level of arrogance, and mismanagement that continues to exist at the AGC. I am not one of them.