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Old November 30th, 2012, 11:31 PM #1
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Very odd visit from the ATF.

Had a visit from a gentleman who produced Balto. Co. police det. ID and ATF ID and stated he was investigating a missing AR15 from a local gun range. He had the paperwork from the gun range from when my wife and I visited and she rented a .45 so thats how he got our info. He claimed the AR15 was a rental that had "gone missing" since the last ATF inspection and they were interviewing everyone who had been to the range. He asked about me working for the railroad and if I went cross country or just stayed local, thats when a red flag went up. The gentleman left and I called the Balto Co police who told me to call Anne Arundel Co police and report it which I did and an officer came out but couldn't do too much since my dumb ass forgot the guys name. So then I called the ATF and after talking to a couple agents and getting a call back I was told it was one of their task force officers and he is conducting an investigation but they weren't sure on what. Then I called the gun range and the guy who answered the phone didn't know anything a missing AR15 but he'd have the owner call me back which he did however he claims he knows nothing about a missing AR15 and he has no idea why this detective was at my house.

So no one knows why this guy has my info or what he's investigating only that he is a cop and he is working with the ATF and unless the gun range owner is lying there's no missing AR15.

Is it just me or does this sound fishy to anyone else? Or am I being paranoid?
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Old November 30th, 2012, 11:34 PM #2
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Sounds like you better dig up those stolen guns asap.
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Old November 30th, 2012, 11:41 PM #3
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Sounds to me like you better lock your house up like a fort. Hide all firearms. With questions about your travel schedule it sounds to me like someone could be caseing the joint.
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I like your checkups on his story! I think you have every right to be concerned about "investigational" visits to your home, especially those that are accompanied by questions of a personal nature regarding your travel habits.

I hope this is the last visit you will have from that guy or any of his colleagues.
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OP, it sounds like you were able to verify that he was legit via contacting the ATF field office so I wouldn't be overly concerned about the questions he asked in regards to your work travels. He's contacting you in reference to an investigation so it would be prudent on his behalf to gather information from anyone he contacts.

As far as the range owner not knowing anything, I suspect most business owners would decline to acknowledge an investigation being conducted by the ATF with customers.

You didn't commit a crime, you were just part of a paper trail that the investigator is following up on and you answered/interacted with him accordingly.

If you happen to have similar interactions in the future, try to remember to ask for a business card and/or write his information down while he's still there. (Sometimes tough to remember when you're caught off guard.)
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Uhh..., don't know what to tell you.

If the Field Office verified his affiliation and that the individual is still active, I'd take the paranoia down a notch. If they couldn't verify the persons' credibility, then I'd be worried some.

Sounds like your just another name to check out, and that's what's happening, so don't sweat it, don't get too wound up, it'll be in the past soon enough.
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Uhh..., don't know what to tell you.

If the Field Office verified his affiliation and that the individual is still active, I'd take the paranoia down a notch. If they couldn't verify the persons' credibility, then I'd be worried some.

Sounds like your just another name to check out, and that's what's happening, so don't sweat it, don't get too wound up, it'll be in the past soon enough.
Exactly. (Of course he could have been visiting to check the layout of your house for the follow up visit to be conducted in the early morning hours. )
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OP, it sounds like you were able to verify that he was legit via contacting the ATF field office so I wouldn't be overly concerned about the questions he asked in regards to your work travels. He's contacting you in reference to an investigation so it would be prudent on his behalf to gather information from anyone he contacts.

As far as the range owner not knowing anything, I suspect most business owners would decline to acknowledge an investigation being conducted by the ATF with customers.

You didn't commit a crime, you were just part of a paper trail that the investigator is following up on and you answered/interacted with him accordingly.

If you happen to have similar interactions in the future, try to remember to ask for a business card and/or write his information down while he's still there. (Sometimes tough to remember when you're caught off guard.)

Kinda along the lines of what I was thinking AFTER he checked out.

The range owner I can also understand as he probly doesn't want it getting out his range LOST an AR15! That sort of thing can hurt a business, also why I'm not mentioning it here.

No crime's here!

I know, I know. He came up on me while I was working on my next door neighbors van, kinda caught me off guard when he knew my name but then he showed me the paper work with mine and my wifes driver's licence's copied onto the range's paperwork for the lane rental.
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looks like the Range you visited is up sh*ts creek for a missing AR15. you don't have anything to worry about.

ATF task force deputises police officer with federal powers since they are so shorthanded.
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or the range owner might have reported one missing that was sold off the books? who knows.. I would alway ask for ID, a business card and if you think you can get away with it, take a picture of him/her.
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