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Old August 17th, 2012, 04:22 PM #1
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Linberta Shotguns?

http://www.linberta.com/

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/i...1178/Linberta/

Anyone have one? Says they are made in Turkey...wonder if it is the same bunch that makes the H&R's, these look like Benelli's almost. For $299 pump or $399 semi-auto might be worth picking one up.
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Any shotgun made in Turkey should be purchased with great skeptimism. They are cosmetically OK, but mechanically they are among the worse guns made on the planet today. It will break. You will wait months and months for a part and then it will break again. When you sell it, you will take another beating. Why bother?
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LINBERTA SHOTGUNS USA

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Any shotgun made in Turkey should be purchased with great skeptimism. They are cosmetically OK, but mechanically they are among the worse guns made on the planet today. It will break. You will wait months and months for a part and then it will break again. When you sell it, you will take another beating. Why bother?
Hi , I am Matt from Liberta USA. As we made a new introduction to USA market under our brand Linberta recently, i would like to give some information about us.
We are shotgun makers for almost 30 years , located in Turkey, and you may know we are located in Huglu Village where famous shotguns are made for many famous companies including US companies.
We are making this guns in this design now for 13 years around and since then we had no problems. This is a proven design, used by hunters and shooters worldwide. Right now on sale with a very very attractive price $229 -$299 for pumps and $399 for semi autos. All of them have a free $25 worth shell belt and plus firing pins , shim kit .
About the warranty , we offer maybe one of the best warranty because , besides factory warranty also it has a nice return warranty.
All these things together makes this gun the best deal on the market today.
ABOUT THE QUALITY : We are saying we make a shotgun 1/3 price of any expensive one and the quality is not less. This is a very solid shotgun . Here one of our customer says , his name is Michael ( I have the email however i can't tell full information of him without asking ) He wrote me and email that he got one and shot immediately, He wanted to buy a pump too . Here what he says "And I love the Limberta a lot. I tell all my friends about them. they are the best shotgun for the money right now. ".
By the time Linberta will have its own market fast . Don't forget today in USA %70 of the shotguns are coming from Turkey. Here some examples for people to remember some of them :
Tristar buys from Turkey
Weatherby buys from Turkey
Stoeger - from Turkey
ATI has shotguns from Turkey
Browning Winchester in corporation with Turkish companies.
Mossberg buys shotguns from Turkey.
And many more like Century Arms, Iver Johnson etc etc.

So can you say Turkish shotguns are all bad in this case? Yes some bad came in the past but they are almost disappeared even in Turkey.
Last sentence : We are so much confident about our products , please do not hesitate to buy. We serve customers 7 days a week by emails, phones as much as we can ...
Many Thanks,
Matt - Linberta USA
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Hi , I am Matt from Liberta USA. As we made a new introduction to USA market under our brand Linberta recently, i would like to give some information about us.
We are shotgun makers for almost 30 years , located in Turkey, and you may know we are located in Huglu Village where famous shotguns are made for many famous companies including US companies.
We are making this guns in this design now for 13 years around and since then we had no problems. This is a proven design, used by hunters and shooters worldwide. Right now on sale with a very very attractive price $229 -$299 for pumps and $399 for semi autos. All of them have a free $25 worth shell belt and plus firing pins , shim kit .
About the warranty , we offer maybe one of the best warranty because , besides factory warranty also it has a nice return warranty.
All these things together makes this gun the best deal on the market today.
ABOUT THE QUALITY : We are saying we make a shotgun 1/3 price of any expensive one and the quality is not less. This is a very solid shotgun . Here one of our customer says , his name is Michael ( I have the email however i can't tell full information of him without asking ) He wrote me and email that he got one and shot immediately, He wanted to buy a pump too . Here what he says "And I love the Limberta a lot. I tell all my friends about them. they are the best shotgun for the money right now. ".
By the time Linberta will have its own market fast . Don't forget today in USA %70 of the shotguns are coming from Turkey. Here some examples for people to remember some of them :
Tristar buys from Turkey
Weatherby buys from Turkey
Stoeger - from Turkey
ATI has shotguns from Turkey
Browning Winchester in corporation with Turkish companies.
Mossberg buys shotguns from Turkey.
And many more like Century Arms, Iver Johnson etc etc.

So can you say Turkish shotguns are all bad in this case? Yes some bad came in the past but they are almost disappeared even in Turkey.
Last sentence : We are so much confident about our products , please do not hesitate to buy. We serve customers 7 days a week by emails, phones as much as we can ...
Many Thanks,
Matt - Linberta USA
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Don't forget today in USA %70 of the shotguns are coming from Turkey.
Where are you getting this number? I'd like to see a source. I have a hard time believing this.

Thanks for the heads up Matt. I'm a little suspect of an email from "Michael" that says your shotguns are the bees knees. Is he some sort of industry expert?

I've had a couple Turkish shotguns and I've been disappointed with all of them. Your above post isn't entirely accurate either. Many reputable companies may import some shotguns from Turkey, but it's hardly their flagship line (the exception being Stoeger).

I hope you guys do end up making a great product, but until there is more evidence that your company makes a great product I won't be wagering my money.

Please don't give us some random email from some guy whose pedigree isn't even shared let alone vetted. It's a little insulting.
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Old August 18th, 2012, 12:14 PM #5
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Where are you getting this number? I'd like to see a source. I have a hard time believing this.

Thanks for the heads up Matt. I'm a little suspect of an email from "Michael" that says your shotguns are the bees knees. Is he some sort of industry expert?

I've had a couple Turkish shotguns and I've been disappointed with all of them. Your above post isn't entirely accurate either. Many reputable companies may import some shotguns from Turkey, but it's hardly their flagship line (the exception being Stoeger).

I hope you guys do end up making a great product, but until there is more evidence that your company makes a great product I won't be wagering my money.

Please don't give us some random email from some guy whose pedigree isn't even shared let alone vetted. It's a little insulting.
I get this number because my family is the biggest parts supplier to gun makers to Turkey and also we are the biggest manufacturer combined. We do shows world wide. Before Linberta i made 100 thousands of exports to famous US companies. There are numbers if you can research how many shotguns imported and how many produced in USA. And %70 (more or less couple points ) are coming from Turkey.

Also i gave Michael's email as example. We have so many other things to proof our quality. Budsgunshop is offering full refund, they do not offer it for other shotguns like Remignton, Beretta...
I write in these forums because we are confident in our shotguns.
Thanks for the interest in our products...
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Linberta,

Thanks for your message. I am interested in it, but I could not find a review of Linberta Shotguns on Internet. If possible, could you please please send me a URL or post an article
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Thanks in advance.
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Well we just brought the shotguns in like 1 week ago. For articles and reviews we are sending some out to editors. But i think before that you will see many forum talks because in 2 days we sold out the semi auto tacticals. I got some good emails but if i publish them everybody thinks that i am trying to proof something with an unreal emails. So in this case i can give you this tip. It has full return warranty , for these prices you can't go wrong. All i can say now is please give us a try , if you still not giving a chance then i respect that too. In the end everbody makes money hard and i respect that fact.
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Sorry we still have some semi tacticals left ,i made a mistake, we sold %80 of our first shipment . But we are getting another big shipment end of August. We probably will keep the shell belt promo going on.
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Good luck with your endeavors. However, the fact remains that most Turkish made guns do not have a good reputation in the USA. If they were quality guns, they would enter the target shooting market and their quality would be quickly endorsed, but this is not the case. The market you sell to are in the most part, shooters who know little about shotguns, new and young shooters on a tight budget and very occasional shooters. When quality and longevity counts, Turkish made guns are not to be found. They are not on the target fields, police departments, miltary or used by high volume bird shooters.

I do not say these things through hearsay. I made the mistake of buying a Huglu a few years ago and had nothing but trouble with it. It broke before going 200 rounds. I was given a replacement gun that went less than 100 rounds. I received another replacement and sold it NIB, taking a 50% hit on my initial purchase. Since then I have noted many new shooters toting various Turkish made guns. On the target fields they do not last. They break. They fail in one mechanical way or another. Their resale value is terrible.

My honest hope is that we are seeing a repeat of the post WWII Spanish gun making businesses. They made guns of the same general quality as Turkish guns and sold them to the same kind of market. Most of those makers don't exist today. The survivors now produce quality shotguns, but it took over 30 years for that to happen. Perhaps this will happen in Turkey and in another 30 years or so they will produce a better product. I will be dead by then, so I'll never know how that works out!
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Mr.Blackthorne, thank you for your inputs. I am sorry for your Huglu experience . But also because of somebody else's mistake , i am not willing to pay the bill also. We are responsible with our products. Our shotguns are excellent valued in terms of price and quality. We as Linberta produce one the lightest steel construction Over & Under shotguns in the world. All steel and it is less than 7 pounds. We will give that a very long warranty. We do some good things...
When Spanish made that guns , technology was not advanced. Today we use CNC machines, 3d scanners, masters, heat treatment is excellent, all the good things. Our shotguns are not something less quality of raw meterials and workmanship.
I know whatever i write here , you will say something about Turkish shotguns . But the fact is by the time everybody will see how our shotguns are far better than many on the market for this very low price.
One day soon in the future i hope you can come to this forum back and tell me i was right.
Best Regards,
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