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Old April 16th, 2012, 10:29 AM #11
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I have a Bushmaster XM15-E2S. I am very happy with it.

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Old April 16th, 2012, 11:00 AM #12
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BCM or Spikes. Don't pay the Colt tax if you don't want to.
Agreed. There are now A LOT of better options beyond what Colt has to offer. If you're stuck on getting a Mil Spec gun, you can buy one at nearly half of what Colt charges.

The design package and spec is what makes it an M4, not the Colt roll mark.
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Old April 16th, 2012, 11:04 AM #13
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thats not bad, last one I looked at was almost 1200. But that tier crap means nothing to me. You can assemble an ar with cheapest parts available that shoots 1/2 moa for thousands of rounds without a failure. But to each there own. Nice rifles but I don't need one but surely would take it for 1050 over a bushy and some others.
Ill call bs on that. If that was the case you would not have all the stories of bolt carriers not staked properly. And to say all barrels shoot the same is utter crap as well. Most ar's will find it tough to reach 1/2 moa accuracy. My 6920 with a 4x and hornady steel match does just under one one inch groups at 100y.
Don't like colts...fine. but don't tell a noon that any combo of parts is fine and that there is no difference because that is incorrect.
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Old April 16th, 2012, 11:06 AM #14
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Don't like colts...fine. but don't tell a noon that any combo of parts is fine and that there is no difference because that is incorrect.
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Old April 16th, 2012, 11:29 AM #15
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Ok ok geeze didn't mean to stir the pot. I have 3 ars all built with regular old parts minus trigger and wilson barrels. All shoot 1/2moa or better and never a failure. One even has a facory RRA upper. I'll agree that there are some junk parts and failures out there but its not as bad as its make out to be.

Only failures get attention and reported, very rarely does anyone talk about how there rifle never has had an issue or shoots well. Yeah maybe saying any combo of parts is good is a little too far. And I don't have a problem with colts just the age long debate on how they are better than everything else in which I feel responsible for starting the inevidable...bad on me and I apologize for that.

Back on topic: FWIW DOn't know how most feel about RRA but my brother just got one of the cars not sure exatly which model but it performed well on its first day out. Shot 3/4" groups with my 69gn handloads w/no failures but it hasn't been abused much yet. It shot decent with xm193 but not the best but I wasn't suprised by this

UPDATE: it is a tactical operator with tactical carry handle but I just found out he paid 1200 for it. I thought it was like 900 so thats too much for that particular rifle IMO but it did come with ergo grip, rear sight/carry handle, and operator stock, and says chromed bolt carrier but looks more like TiN coated.
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Get a Colt 6920 and you will have no problems out of it. Why not get the real thing? DD is nice nut its still not a Colt.
You're right, its NOT a colt.....Neither is LaRue, LWRC, Les Baer ( and Daniel Defense )...BUT they seem to rank right up there or even higher than colt.
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I don't want to get into a pissing contest about ARs. The OP stated he is not interested in competitions. He does not need 1/2 MOA for plinking at rhe range. He just needs an AR that is reliable and reasonably priced.
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I don't want to get into a pissing contest about ARs. The OP stated he is not interested in competitions. He does not need 1/2 MOA for plinking at rhe range. He just needs an AR that is reliable and reasonably priced.
In that case, a S&W Sport. It would leave enough $$ for ammo. All the OP would then have to do is buy some additional mags and cleaning supplies, if he doesn't have any other .224" caliber rifles.
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If all you're doing is punching paper and you're not interested in super tiny groups, ANY AR will work for you. $600 will get you a DPMS or S&W. Spend the rest of the money on mags and ammo. If you want super reliability and tack driving performance, get the higher priced rifles. The extra money is for the reliability.
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^^ This.....Or try to piece together one using the classifieds here and other sites. You can build one new within this price range pretty easily. Some good companies with great prices are BravoCompany, Palmetto State Armory, etc.
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