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Old April 12th, 2012, 12:31 PM #1
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PERMIT APPLICATION RETURNED

Well, now I know how MSP is going to handle the applications that have been submitted for handgun permits.

I just got my application returned in the mail with an form letter stating I did not have a "good and substantial reason" to be issued a permit to wear, carry, or transport a handgun.

If this works, here is a scan of the letter.

http://www.box.com/s/92306766413790660714
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sorry - we will all share the same fate.
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When did you apply? Sounds like it was because you were after the "stay"?




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Did they return your check?
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Hmmm....I thought they said they were going to sit on them. This will certainly skew their "97% approval rate", won't it?
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B U M M E R. Would seem if they knew this going in they would not have bothered with the rest of the process.
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Total B.S. but not a big surprise. I guess the only surprise is that the are returning the money.
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My check was returned as well.

My app was submitted 4/6/12, AFTER the stay was in place. I wonder how they are going to process the apps received prior to that? Denied on the G&S reasoning? Refund their app fee and offer them the same consideration? Table the apps pending the appeal?

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Returning but not denying. Submitted after the stay, too. Very interesting, MSP...very interesting indeed.

Thanks for letting us know.
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Might want to contact Del. Smigiel. I think he wanted to know about these things.

Since they returned your check it will not go against their approval rate since they never looked at it......I guess that is how it works.
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This is why I've never even applied for an MD carry permit. It seems like I'd just be giving them some free $$.
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Is this different that what they previously did? I thought they would usually take your money and deny you. I would definitely send a copy of the letter to Smigel.
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Well, now I know how MSP is going to handle the applications that have been submitted for handgun permits.

I just got my application returned in the mail with an form letter stating I did not have a "good and substantial reason" to be issued a permit to wear, carry, or transport a handgun.

If this works, here is a scan of the letter.

http://www.box.com/s/92306766413790660714
Well at least they returned your money.
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Hmmm....I thought they said they were going to sit on them. This will certainly skew their "97% approval rate", won't it?
I don't think so. The application was not disapproved, it was simply returned. This is probably why they are handling applications like this. Their record will stand.
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Make sure the legal eagles at MSI see this , Im pretty sure they asked to be updated
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My check was returned as well.

My app was submitted 4/6/12, AFTER the stay was in place. I wonder how they are going to process the apps received prior to that? Denied on the G&S reasoning? Refund their app fee and offer them the same consideration? Table the apps pending the appeal?

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Doesn't it say on the application that the fee is non-refundable, regardless of decision?
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Doesn't it say on the application that the fee is non-refundable, regardless of decision?
They never made a decision. They decided they didn't even need to go that far.
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I would for sure forward a copy of the letter to MSI and Delegate Smigel.
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They never made a decision. They decided they didn't even need to go that far.
I have never seen the state of MD pass up any opportunity to take a person's money. This is shocking.
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Might want to contact Del. Smigiel. I think he wanted to know about these things.

Since they returned your check it will not go against their approval rate since they never looked at it......I guess that is how it works.
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His email is delegatemikesmigiel@gmail.com
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