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Old January 25th, 2012, 08:55 PM #1
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Is it an SBR or a pistol?

So i watched a few FPS Russia videos tonight and one of them was this little gem.

So as the title reads, is it an SBR since it has a Slide Fire Stock or can it still be considered a pistol?

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Old January 25th, 2012, 09:03 PM #2
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Sure looks like and SBR to me.

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I'm no NFA wizard but since it has a stock, its an SBR to me.
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I thought putting a shoulder stock on a pistol AR was a no no...
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I'm fairly sure that's a big No No in Maryland. But I Like it!!!
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I'm fairly sure that's a big No No in Maryland. But I Like it!!!
Putting a stock on a pistol without paper work is a no-no anywhere. However, stamped what he is showing is 100% legal in Maryland.

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I have wondered this, too.

Reason being - the Slidefire stock does NOT attach to the firearm in question. This un-attachment is what makes it possible to bumpfire the gun. An attached stock wouldn't work, in fact.

One of the requirements for a SBR is that the stock be attached. But if the only thing holding the stock to the gun is your hands, then that's not attached.

A virgin or pistol lower, with a rifle buffer-tube in place could be construed as constructive possession of SBR, but having the SSAR stock on it would not technically be an SBR because the stock is not attached.

But "they" make up their own rules as they go along, so being right or wrong doesn't mean anything...
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I have wondered this, too.

Reason being - the Slidefire stock does NOT attach to the firearm in question. This un-attachment is what makes it possible to bumpfire the gun. An attached stock wouldn't work, in fact.

One of the requirements for a SBR is that the stock be attached. But if the only thing holding the stock to the gun is your hands, then that's not attached.

A virgin or pistol lower, with a rifle buffer-tube in place could be construed as constructive possession of SBR, but having the SSAR stock on it would not technically be an SBR because the stock is not attached.

But "they" make up their own rules as they go along, so being right or wrong doesn't mean anything...
Interesting, and of course, lots of fun...

Yes, the ATF will likely want to take as grim of a view as they legally can of putting one in contact with an AR-15 pistol. However they might not be able to make the legal leap.

No doubt, that they are still figuring out how to come up with a slide fire ban to begin with.
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A slide fire stock is bound to the buffer tube. It can't come off, even though it does "float" for a couple of inches of movement. It also has a locking lever on the bottom that fixes it in place. I think by any definition, it is an attached stock.

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I have wondered this, too.

Reason being - the Slidefire stock does NOT attach to the firearm in question. This un-attachment is what makes it possible to bumpfire the gun. An attached stock wouldn't work, in fact. One of the requirements for a SBR is that the stock be attached. But if the only thing holding the stock to the gun is your hands, then that's not attached.

A virgin or pistol lower, with a rifle buffer-tube in place could be construed as constructive possession of SBR, but having the SSAR stock on it would not technically be an SBR because the stock is not attached.

But "they" make up their own rules as they go along, so being right or wrong doesn't mean anything...
Thats what i was trying to say, i just couldn't type it out so it would make sense
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