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Old April 30th, 2008, 02:12 PM #1
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Your collection could get you locked up w/o bail

Does this "crime" sound like it's worthy of being locked up and denied bail? And since when does owning 12 handguns constitue "hoarding guns"? Sounds like the guy lit off some fireworks and is now rotting in jail...

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/loc...,6951757.story

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Pikesville man accused of hoarding guns, pyrotechnics

A Pikesville condo resident charged with hoarding pyrotechnics and guns after neighbors complained about loud noises and flashes in the middle of the night was ordered held without bail today by a Baltimore County District Court judge who said he is worried about the suspect "blowing up the neighborhood."


The bail for Frederick Lee Mackler, 59, had been set at $1 million, but Judge Norman R. Stone III revoked it during a hearing yesterday in the Towson courthouse. The judge noted that police reported finding 12 handguns, an Uzi submachine gun and fireworks in his apartment in the Stevenson Commons Condominiums.
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Just makes me wonder what he really did, vice the media focus on the evil guns and explosives. You never hear the whole truth
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Old April 30th, 2008, 02:40 PM #3
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i saw the report on television...seemed pretty slanted against him to try to make him sound as bad as possible noting that he was a "convicted criminal with a prior battery charge"...or he got in a fight at a bar once. Not sure about this one, need more info...okay fireworks are illegal but how many people have some at their place possibly even now this far away from july 4th? i dont get what the big deal is here besides he just pissed his neighbors off by setting them off all the time.

"Mackler has been charged with 10 counts, including disturbing the peace, reckless endangerment, possession of fireworks without a permit, possession of marijuana and possession of firearms."

didnt know possession of firearms was a crime. maybee it's a big deal because he's a felon and isnt supposed to have emm? i dunno. it di piss me off that watching wbal news yesterday around 6 o'clock they had about 6 gun-related crime stories in a row....5 of them were from crimes from 2003, 2004...from 2000..it looks like the news is drumming up gun issues a lot lately getting ready for the elections
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I think the real problems was that he had drugs (enough to constitute trafficking/distribution). Drugs + Guns + Explosives = Jail Time.

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Court System: DISTRICT COURT FOR BALTIMORE COUNTY - CRIMINAL SYSTEM
Case Number: 3C00281515Tracking No:020005550202
Case Type: CRIMINAL
District Code: 08Location Code:04
Document Type: STATEMENT OF CHARGESIssued Date:04/29/2008
Case Status: ACTIVE

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Defendant Information
Defendant Name: MACKLER, FREDERICK LEE
Race: WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex: MHeight:509Weight:195DOB:03/03/1949

Address: 8002 BRYNMOR COURT #406
City: PIKESVILLEState:MDZip Code:21208 - 0000

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Charge and Disposition Information

(Each Charge is listed separately. The disposition is listed below the Charge)

Charge No: 001DescriptionISTURB PEACE - LOUD NOISE
Statute: CR.10.201.(c)(5)DescriptionISTURB PEACE - LOUD NOISE
Amended Date: CJIS Code:2 0065MO/PLL: Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From: 04/28/2008 To: 04/28/2008 Victim Age:

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Charge No: 002Description:RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT
Statute: CR.3.204.(a)(1)Description:RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT
Amended Date: CJIS Code:1 1425MO/PLL: Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From: 04/28/2008 To: 04/28/2008 Victim Age:

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Charge No: 003Description:FIREWORKS POSS. W/O PERMIT
Statute: PS.10.104.(a)(1)Description:FIREWORKS POSS. W/O PERMIT
Amended Date: CJIS Code:1 0016MO/PLL: Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From: 04/24/2008 To: 04/24/2008 Victim Age:

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Charge No: 004Description:FIREWORKS POSS. W/O PERMIT
Statute: PS.10.104.(a)(2)Description:FIREWORKS POSS. W/O PERMIT
Amended Date: CJIS Code:1 0021MO/PLL: Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From: 04/28/2008 To: 04/28/2008 Victim Age:

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Charge No: 005Description:CDS: POSS W/INTENT DIST: NARC
Statute: CR.5.602.(2)Description:CDS: POSS W/INTENT DIST: NARC
Amended Date: CJIS Code:3 0233MO/PLL: Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From: 04/28/2008 To: 04/28/2008 Victim Age:

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Charge No: 006Description:CDS: POSS PARAPHERNALIA
Statute: CR.5.619.(c)(1)Description:CDS: POSS PARAPHERNALIA
Amended Date: CJIS Code:5 3550MO/PLL: Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From: 04/28/2008 To: 04/28/2008 Victim Age:

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Charge No: 007DescriptionANGEROUS WEAPON-CONCEAL
Statute: CR.4.101.(c)(1)DescriptionANGEROUS WEAPON-CONCEAL
Amended Date: CJIS Code:1 5202MO/PLL: Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From: 04/28/2008 To: 04/28/2008 Victim Age:

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Charge No: 008Description:FIREARM/DRUG TRAF CRIME
Statute: CR.5.621.(b)(1)Description:FIREARM/DRUG TRAF CRIME
Amended Date: CJIS Code:1 0493MO/PLL: Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From: 04/28/2008 To: 04/28/2008 Victim Age:

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Charge No: 009Description:CDS: POSSESSION-MARIHUANA
Statute: CR.5.601.(a)(1)Description:CDS: POSSESSION-MARIHUANA
Amended Date: CJIS Code:1 0573MO/PLL: Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From: 04/28/2008 To: 04/28/2008 Victim Age:

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Charge No: 010Description:CDS: POSSESS-NOT MARIHUANA
Statute: CR.5.601.(a)(1)Description:CDS: POSSESS-NOT MARIHUANA
Amended Date: CJIS Code:4 3550MO/PLL: Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From: 04/28/2008 To: 04/28/2008 Victim Age:

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Also, doing a search, it looks like in 1992 he was charged with 2 counts of battery and given 1 year probation.
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supposedly he was firing 6" class B mortars, not some innocent little bottle rockets, there might be something the judge knows and we don't, these days the paper is expected to take a dig at guns reguardless of circumstances or facts.
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But of course in spite of the class B mortars, and in spite of the drugs, the Slumpaper decides to focus completely on the "hoarding" of 12 guns. How is 12 guns "hoarding". If that's hoarding, than we must be a bunch of terrorists. Hell, I was at 12 YEARS ago .... it called "collecting"
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sorry, it's kinda hard to conjure up much pity for him.
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the ass has been shooting these off his balcony in the middle of the night for months - he is going to get every possible charge thrown at him - doesn't mean they will all stick
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supposedly he was firing 6" class B mortars, not some innocent little bottle rockets, there might be something the judge knows and we don't, these days the paper is expected to take a dig at guns reguardless of circumstances or facts.
I shoot fireworks professionally over the Independence day period, and if this guy was shooting 6" mortars around condo's he's in a lot more trouble than local - you need a federal license just to touch the stuff, much less buy it.

That being said, I doubt that's really what he had. If he was setting those off, the response would have been a lot faster than "trouble locating the source" - they travel 600' into the air. Kinda hard to hide.
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The definition of hoarding is "Collecting and putting things away in an organized manner" so I don't see any big problem with it.


Plus you need a pyrotechnic license from the state of Maryland, plus there is the whole transportation and storage issue.............

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