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Old January 16th, 2011, 11:15 PM #1
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Hi Folks,
Is an AR-10 in 7.62 NATO or .308 Winchester always a regulated weapon?
Or, is there an HBAR version such as there is for an AR-15 that is effectively Cash and Carry.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 12:35 AM #2
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Hi Folks,
Is an AR-10 in 7.62 NATO or .308 Winchester always a regulated weapon?
Or, is there an HBAR version such as there is for an AR-15 that is effectively Cash and Carry.
The AR-10 is NOT an AR-15, parts do not interchange in general and thus it is not a clone, nor is it regulated.

That said, good f'ing luck finding an MD dealer who will transfer the AR-10 as not regulated.

Before people start telling me it's regulated, remember these important points.

1. Bolt, Carrier, Lower, Upper, Barrel, and other parts do not interchange. The few parts that might interchange are inconsequential.
2. There is no such thing as a lightweight AR-10 barrel.
3. AR-15's never (EVER) came in .308 or 7.62x51 caliber.
4. There is no prohibition on the action (like the AK) but only on SPECIFIC models... AR-15 != AR-10, they are different.

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Old January 17th, 2011, 01:01 AM #3
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I completely agree with Mark. Not regulated. But..... It won't be easy finding someone to do the weapon transfer as a unregulated. Just like he said, good luck.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 06:30 AM #4
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2. There is no such thing as a lightweight AR-10 barrel.
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Other than that I agree with everything you said.
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My DPMS was transfered on a 4473 only.
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My coworker just ordered an Armalite AR10 and it was handled as "regulated" by the dealer.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 08:21 AM #7
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Both AR 10s that I bought were regulated. One is a DPMS AP4 with 16" barrel and the other is a DPMS LR 308 with 24" stainless fluted bull barrel. You would think the 24 would be a "heavy barrel" but law makers don't see it that way.
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Both AR 10s that I bought were regulated. One is a DPMS AP4 with 16" barrel and the other is a DPMS LR 308 with 24" stainless fluted bull barrel. You would think the 24 would be a "heavy barrel" but law makers don't see it that way.
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Both AR 10s that I bought were transfered as regulated. One is a DPMS AP4 with 16" barrel and the other is a DPMS LR 308 with 24" stainless fluted bull barrel. You would think the 24 would be a transfered as "heavy barrel" but my FFL don't see it that way.
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Since we are on the subject of AR-10s... I have an early AR-10T (bought it new in 1995), and recently had Armalite upgrade it to their Gen II spec (for improved reliability). Of course this requires use of their GenII magazines... Needless to say, I now have several Armalite GenI mags for which I have no use. PM me if interested.
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Let me correct this post for you:
No I still stand behind MD lawmakers do not see it as a non regulated rifle. An HBAR only refers to the AR 15 which an AR 10 is not and has been stated why above therefore it would not fall under the same guidelines. Just FYI the law also stats that only a Colt HBAR and "it's" variants can be transferred as a non regulated rifle. I know of a shop in Baltimore County that will not under no circumstance transfer any non Colt HBAR cash and carry because that is how they interpret the law. Does "it's" mean Colt or any other AR 15 I guess we will never know..
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